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soldout4Jesus
03-19-2003, 10:56 PM
Just a thought:
It is difficult to appreciate the magnitude of God's love
unless one has learned to value the meaning of God's justice
:)
Adoniyah
03-20-2003, 10:49 AM
Brother Soldout:
The depth of your short statement cannot be measured in a collection of volumes on the subject. It is probably one of the most profound statements that I have read on the Cafe.
How justice correlates with divine love is so intricate and meaningful that I would like to comment but I hardly know where to begin. I would also like to explore the depth of your understanding in this matter.
Justice also has to do with charity which is the manifestation or the demonstration of divine love which SHOULD HAVE BEEN shed abound in our hearts by the Holy Ghost.
I will think about this for a while, collect a few thoughts and respond again. I am greatly taken back by the profound wisdom of your thought. I may not be able to do it this week as I will be quite busy, but I will keep it in mind.
soldout4Jesus
03-22-2003, 04:01 AM
Thank you for the response, Elder.
The Lord gave me this thought in prayer one evening and I myself couldn't think of a way to explain it. So I thought of posting it here for others to see and give their comments to it. I look forward to your reply, Bro. Strange.
soldout4Jesus
03-22-2003, 04:16 AM
Let me share this.
One time I asked the Lord to give me burden for the lost and what he gave me was a vision of the cross. It's not a literal vision, though.
Somehow, the Lord let me feel what he felt when he spoke "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me," and from there I got a glimpse of what the condition of a lost soul really is - so far from God, because of SIN .
The thought I posted above, can perhaps be best explained when one looks at the cross of our Lord Jesus. I don't have the words to explain it. A song puts it this way: "For it reaches far beyond what mortal tongue could ever tell." But maybe, one of these days, the Lord, in his infinite wisdom and goodness, wouldl grant me a deeper understanding on the subject and I could finally put them into words.
Please, Elder, I would like to hear your thoughts .
soldout4Jesus
03-22-2003, 04:19 AM
One writer - I don't know who, has said:
LOVE IS THE MAXIMUM OF JUSTICE
JUSTICE THE MINIMUM OF LOVE
Sandy
03-22-2003, 12:19 PM
I am waiting for what Adoniyah has to share regarding this as well.
Sandy
03-22-2003, 12:26 PM
In the meantime brother, you might look up the scriptures that speak of justice, justification, and etc. by using the Concordance.
I don't know about you, as God deals with each of us differently. But with me, the Lord will speak a Word to me, then as I put some legs behind what He speaks, and begin to search it out in the scriptures, usually using my concordance to do so, He will then begin to add to my understanding of it.
soldout4Jesus
03-24-2003, 12:31 AM
That helped, Sister. Thanks.
:)
Adoniyah
03-24-2003, 08:41 PM
Soldout:
I have thought a great deal about how to address this very good subject without being consumed by it. I do not have a great deal of time. I will try to abbreviate it knowing that I am sacrificing a great deal of substance.
Since the subject is "Love and Justice," it is important to note that there is no true justice apart from the Love of God. It shoud be known that love is manifested through us by act, to be known as "charity." Charity is the act of demonstrating to another that love which is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost. True chairty is spiritual.
Chairty becomes spiritual when one acts justly before the world for the sake of salvation as he shuns evils as they are an affront to a holy God who is the essence of justice. As man practices this kind of life he becomes more and increasingly wise in all of his affairs whether they be affairs of employment, family, social, business, or that of church matters.
Those who are in true spiritual charity discharge those duties justly and with faithfulness with all with whom he has to do. Those that are not in chairty discharge those same duties very differently, even though that may have the exact appearance before the world. Yet, unseen by the world is the great disparity in quality of the act.
Except one shun sins, refuse the wrong by living a life style of repentance, acts of apparant charity, though they appear identical are not the same in the interior of man. One proceed from wisdom grounded in heavenly love which terminate in justice, the other proceed from insanity grounded in love of self and of the world and terminate in all that is evil. There is so much that I should perhaps say in this connection.
I use the word charity as there is no love apart from chairty. That which is truly love demands justice which is the manifestation of and integral to divine wisdom. Divine love and divine wisdom is the essence of God and subsist one in the other which cannot be divided any more than that which is good and that which is true can be divided.
I am about to become too lengthy here. I will add more another day.
Goodshepherd
03-24-2003, 09:17 PM
Wow Bro. Adonyah............. those were words of wisdom
soldout4Jesus
03-24-2003, 10:16 PM
Thank you for those words of wisdom, Elder.
I'll be awaiting for more from you while I study your post as well as scriptures pertaining to the subject.
soldout4Jesus
05-22-2006, 10:29 PM
Was searching some posts from the past when I stumbled upon this one.
Bump, bump, bump.
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