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Hnovilla
09-24-2008, 10:20 AM
His Name is Jesus!
Man can never repent of his own accord: it is not in his nature. Man will stay in the condition, state, location in which he is most comfortable in, unless he becomes uncomfortable in it. At least, that is what the history of man teaches us.
Repentance is God's invitation for man to believe something new: to believe the Gospel. God first began calling man, saying, "Adam, where are you?" He still calls each person by name; insistently, until we decide to either listen or reject the calling.
Jesus said, "No man comes to me, except the Father draw him." Repentance is the Father calling us and leading us to "...the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world." If we believe that there is sin in us that must be taken away, then the opportunity to repent has overtaken us; we will draw near to God, or walk farther away.
Have we not read: "...one shall be taken, and the other left..."? In today's vernacular, it would read: "...one shall draw near, and the other shall NOT draw near..."
Brother villa
witness03
06-23-2009, 08:51 AM
His Name is Jesus!
Man can never repent of his own accord: it is not in his nature. Man will stay in the condition, state, location in which he is most comfortable in, unless he becomes uncomfortable in it. At least, that is what the history of man teaches us.
Repentance is God's invitation for man to believe something new: to believe the Gospel. God first began calling man, saying, "Adam, where are you?" He still calls each person by name; insistently, until we decide to either listen or reject the calling.
Jesus said, "No man comes to me, except the Father draw him." Repentance is the Father calling us and leading us to "...the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world." If we believe that there is sin in us that must be taken away, then the opportunity to repent has overtaken us; we will draw near to God, or walk farther away.
Have we not read: "...one shall be taken, and the other left..."? In today's vernacular, it would read: "...one shall draw near, and the other shall NOT draw near..."
Brother villa
Will true repentance stop us from sinning, or is it a step in the right direction?
Manila1485
06-23-2009, 09:00 AM
I don't think that the act of repenting will mean that we won't ever sin again. However, I do think that once a person has a heart to repent, does it and then stays close to God, then that person will be more aware and pay more attention to the things that he is doing or thinking about doing. Things that were once done just because "that's the way I was" are now given careful consideration because of "this is who I am".
witness03
06-23-2009, 09:19 AM
I don't think that the act of repenting will mean that we won't ever sin again. However, I do think that once a person has a heart to repent, does it and then stays close to God, then that person will be more aware and pay more attention to the things that he is doing or thinking about doing. Things that were once done just because "that's the way I was" are now given careful consideration because of "this is who I am".
I can agree to that. You seem to be talking about a person who is already saved. But, I was responding to this statement.
Repentance is the Father calling us and leading us to "...the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world."
I assumed that the "repentance" in the post was pointing to the moment a person is saved.
Hope Preacher
06-23-2009, 09:36 AM
There are two aspects to repentance:
1. There is our desire to change and our attempts to do so. This includes confession, repentance and a sincere faith demonstrated by our own effort to change.
2. Complete repentance (making an about face) can only comes as the Father draws us to himself. He seems to do that by convicting us of our sins giving us a godly sorrow which leads to repentance (1 Corinthians 7:10).
Can one sin once repentance has taken place? Certainly! as long as we are in the temple of flesh we will have the tendency to sin. Knowing this we are given the promise; "If we confess our sins he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness" (1 John 1:9)
Hnovilla
10-24-2009, 03:51 PM
His NAMEis Jesus!
Hope Preacher:
"There are two aspects to repentance:
1. There is our desire to change and our attempts to do so. This includes confession, repentance and a sincere faith demonstrated by our own effort to change.
2. Complete repentance (making an about face) can only comes as the Father draws us to himself. He seems to do that by convicting us of our sins giving us a godly sorrow which leads to repentance."
Very well said. We must not forget that repentance, in the whole scheme of salvation, is the work of God and not of ourselves. It is the calling of God which brings a deire to change; it is our belief in God's righteousness that leads us to remission of sins.
witness03:
"I assumed that the "repentance" in the post was pointing to the moment a person is saved."
The New Testament never testifies that anyone was ever saved solely by repentance; athough there are those who believe just that, in asserting that "only faith" is needed to be saved. "For by grace are you saved through faith: and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God."
Brother villa
BrotherDavid
08-10-2010, 10:48 PM
Will true repentance stop us from sinning, or is it a step in the right direction?
True Repentance brings transformation...... The New Birth really messes your sinning up !!
Warren_Gross
08-11-2010, 02:39 AM
True Repentance brings transformation...... The New Birth really messes your sinning up !!
AMEN!!!
:preach:
BrotherDavid
08-14-2010, 08:20 PM
True Repentance is a Godly sorrow..... being sorry for every wrong and sinful thing you've ever done, But also asking God to help you to show that you are sorry with a new life.
We don't talk the way we used to talk...... We don't walk the way we used to walk !!
I also believe if someone truly Repents, they'll go home and clean house !! They get rid of ever ungodly-sinful thing in their home.
iclimb1998
08-16-2010, 06:57 PM
I have met men who are more comfortable in the act of repentance then they would be in there own living rooms.
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Gusto
01-05-2011, 09:24 AM
His NAMEis Jesus!
Hope Preacher:
"There are two aspects to repentance:
1. There is our desire to change and our attempts to do so. This includes confession, repentance and a sincere faith demonstrated by our own effort to change.
2. Complete repentance (making an about face) can only comes as the Father draws us to himself. He seems to do that by convicting us of our sins giving us a godly sorrow which leads to repentance."
Very well said. We must not forget that repentance, in the whole scheme of salvation, is the work of God and not of ourselves. It is the calling of God which brings a deire to change; it is our belief in God's righteousness that leads us to remission of sins.
witness03:
"I assumed that the "repentance" in the post was pointing to the moment a person is saved."
The New Testament never testifies that anyone was ever saved solely by repentance; athough there are those who believe just that, in asserting that "only faith" is needed to be saved. "For by grace are you saved through faith: and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God."
Brother villa
Villa, I don't see anywhere in the Bible where repentance comes before salvation, or is a part of getting saved. Most people, including myself, understand repentance to mean that a person reverses their old lifestyle to a lifestyle that would reflect their new walk with Christ. I don't see this happening to a person who does not know Jesus as their savior. Honestly, I see no reason for a person to repent unless they are saved.
MawMaw
01-05-2011, 10:43 AM
True Repentance brings transformation...... The New Birth really messes your sinning up !!
Ain't that the truth!! :woot_jump:
Thank God it does!!! :angel:
Gusto
01-05-2011, 03:59 PM
True Repentance brings transformation...... The New Birth really messes your sinning up !!
Define: true repentance
when does it happen?
angelindesguise
01-05-2011, 04:51 PM
Villa, I don't see anywhere in the Bible where repentance comes before salvation, or is a part of getting saved. Most people, including myself, understand repentance to mean that a person reverses their old lifestyle to a lifestyle that would reflect their new walk with Christ. I don't see this happening to a person who does not know Jesus as their savior. Honestly, I see no reason for a person to repent unless they are saved.
True Repentance brings transformation...... The New Birth really messes your sinning up !!
Define: true repentance
when does it happen?
Acts 2:38...Then Peter said unto them, Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
MawMaw
01-05-2011, 04:54 PM
Define: true repentance
True Repentance is a Godly sorrow..... being sorry for every wrong and sinful thing you've ever done, But also asking God to help you to show that you are sorry with a new life.
We don't talk the way we used to talk...... We don't walk the way we used to walk !!
I also believe if someone truly Repents, they'll go home and clean house !! They get rid of ever ungodly-sinful thing in their home.
That right there is a pretty good explanation I think. :)
MawMaw
01-05-2011, 04:55 PM
Villa, I don't see anywhere in the Bible where repentance comes before salvation, or is a part of getting saved. Most people, including myself, understand repentance to mean that a person reverses their old lifestyle to a lifestyle that would reflect their new walk with Christ. I don't see this happening to a person who does not know Jesus as their savior. Honestly, I see no reason for a person to repent unless they are saved.
The following proves that you must repent before salvation begins.
Acts 2:38...Then Peter said unto them, Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
angelindesguise
01-05-2011, 05:04 PM
I remember exactly when I was repenting of my sins as I was listening to the word taught to me in the Apostolic Church I was attending. I heard the whole bible taught concerning every phase in which we should live. Though I had been raised Baptist, I heard things preached in my new church that had never been touched on in my old church. One of them being modestly dressed and not showing a large part of our bodies. For instance swimming in skimpy swimwear in mixed company. I saw with my own eyes the scripture he used and God opened my understanding and I realized that God was actually speaking directly to me through my Pastor. Therefore I was pricked in my heart at that time and knew some of the things I was doing and involved in was not the actions of a saved person. I thank God, He found me just in time.
Repentence, if before or after baptism and the Holy Ghost is the most important step in salvation. Without it, the other two steps are useless.
Villa, I don't see anywhere in the Bible where repentance comes before salvation, or is a part of getting saved. Most people, including myself, understand repentance to mean that a person reverses their old lifestyle to a lifestyle that would reflect their new walk with Christ. I don't see this happening to a person who does not know Jesus as their savior. Honestly, I see no reason for a person to repent unless they are saved.
Just wondering
01-12-2011, 10:37 PM
Repentence, if before or after baptism and the Holy Ghost is the most important step in salvation. Without it, the other two steps are useless.
It is truly an important step in salvation. But I think that you are going to have to start with repentence. Most ministers I know won't baptize people unless they have at least started repenting of their sins. And I don't believe that you can receive the Holy Ghost until you have truly repented and turned away from what you are doing wrong.
Gusto
01-14-2011, 12:19 PM
Repentence, if before or after baptism and the Holy Ghost is the most important step in salvation. Without it, the other two steps are useless.
What good does it do for someone who is not saved to repent? No one can make changes in their life unless they have Christ. As with Cornelius for example, he did not repent before God acknowledge him by giving him the Holy Spirit.
Gusto
01-14-2011, 12:29 PM
It is truly an important step in salvation. But I think that you are going to have to start with repentence. Most ministers I know won't baptize people unless they have at least started repenting of their sins. And I don't believe that you can receive the Holy Ghost until you have truly repented and turned away from what you are doing wrong.
As with many ministers, most people have an incorrect understanding of what repent means. People throw the word "repent" around like it is a magic formula to save us. That is NOT what the term means.
Strong's: From G3326 and G3539; to think differently or afterwards, that is, reconsider (morally to feel compunction): - repent.
It is normal for a person who has been saved to think differently about their life, whereas, it is not normal for a person who has not been saved to have feelings of guilt about their sins. The Holy Spirit is Who convicts the believer and drives us to repentance.
angelindesguise
01-14-2011, 12:40 PM
As with many ministers, most people have an incorrect understanding of what repent means. People throw the word "repent" around like it is a magic formula to save us. That is NOT what the term means.
Strong's: From G3326 and G3539; to think differently or afterwards, that is, reconsider (morally to feel compunction): - repent.
It is normal for a person who has been saved to think differently about their life, whereas, it is not normal for a person who has not been saved to have feelings of guilt about their sins. The Holy Spirit is Who convicts the believer and drives us to repentance.
So IOW you don't think the preacing of the word can prick us in our heart and convict us that we are sinners and make us feel the need to repent before we are saved. How can we ever come to repentence if we are not made aware that we are sinners to begin with?
Acts 2:37
Now when they heart this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peterand to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Acts 2:38
And Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the HolyGhost.
MawMaw
01-14-2011, 02:08 PM
What good does it do for someone who is not saved to repent? No one can make changes in their life unless they have Christ. As with Cornelius for example, he did not repent before God acknowledge him by giving him the Holy Spirit.
Huh? :blink:
You can't be saved if you don't repent first!
You have to let God know that you are sorry for your wrongs.
angelindesguise
01-14-2011, 02:11 PM
Huh? :blink:
You can't be saved if you don't repent first!
You have to let God know that you are sorry for your wrongs.
Wonder what type Bible he is reading about repentence from MawMaw.
King James version explains it all best, even though some say they can't understand. It's the only Bible we had for years and years.
MawMaw
01-14-2011, 02:15 PM
Wonder what type Bible he is reading about repentence from MawMaw.
King James version explains it all best, even though some say they can't understand. It's the only Bible we had for years and years.
I wonder how in the world he thinks there's no use in someone who is not saved, to repent?
Boggles my mind!
angelindesguise
01-14-2011, 02:19 PM
I wonder how in the world he thinks there's no use in someone who is not saved, to repent?
Boggles my mind!
If we didn't feel the need to repent, how would we ever come to God in the first place. We would never feel the need to be saved. Kind of astounding isn't it?
Just wondering
01-15-2011, 10:27 AM
As with many ministers, most people have an incorrect understanding of what repent means. People throw the word "repent" around like it is a magic formula to save us. That is NOT what the term means.
Strong's: From G3326 and G3539; to think differently or afterwards, that is, reconsider (morally to feel compunction): - repent.
It is normal for a person who has been saved to think differently about their life, whereas, it is not normal for a person who has not been saved to have feelings of guilt about their sins. The Holy Spirit is Who convicts the believer and drives us to repentance.
When I went to the dictionary to look up the word repent this is what I found.
1. to feel sorry, self-reproachful, or contrite for past conduct; regret or be conscience-stricken about a past action, attitude, etc. (often fol. by of ): He repented after his thoughtless act.
2. to feel such sorrow for sin or fault as to be disposed to change one's life for the better; be penitent.
So to me this is saying that I feel bad about what I have done.
That goes along with what Peter told us to do. To tell God you're sorry about the things you have done that were wrong and ask him to help you to do better in the future.
angelindesguise
01-15-2011, 10:37 AM
Wonder where Gusto went?
angelindesguise
01-16-2011, 12:58 PM
Villa, I don't see anywhere in the Bible where repentance comes before salvation, or is a part of getting saved. Most people, including myself, understand repentance to mean that a person reverses their old lifestyle to a lifestyle that would reflect their new walk with Christ. I don't see this happening to a person who does not know Jesus as their savior. Honestly, I see no reason for a person to repent unless they are saved.
Our sunday school lesson this morning was on repentance. I sure wish you could have been there. There would have been no way you couldn't have understand the scriptures.
Just wondering
01-16-2011, 04:06 PM
Our sunday school lesson this morning was on repentance. I sure wish you could have been there. There would have been no way you couldn't have understand the scriptures.
Hmm isn't that strange. Ours was also on repentance.
paul kimrey
02-02-2011, 05:22 PM
To truly repent of your sins there has to be an awareness that YOUR sins nailed Jesus to the cross and His blood was shed for You acts 2:37-3837 ¶ Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Faith come by hearing,hearing by the Word of God
Luv~N~Jesus
02-09-2011, 09:46 PM
Yes, and godly sorrow worketh repentance. 2 Cor. 7:10
BrotherDavid
08-22-2011, 10:33 PM
Also making amends is a very important part of true repentance, of course when it is possible. This was truly demonstrated in Zacchaeus' life......What a change Jesus brings !!
Luke 19:8-9
King James Version (KJV)
8And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord: Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold. 9And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham.
angelindesguise
04-03-2012, 09:13 PM
Bible repentance. The Bible plainly says, "Without shedding of blood is no remission" of sin (Heb.9:22). Then Christ said before He went back to Heaven "that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem" (Luke 24:47). Blood redemption in Christ means nothing to the individual until he first repents. Repentance and faith are the means of grace for entrance into the blessings of the atonement, or blood redemption in Christ. It is one thing to preach repentance; it is another thing to see the Holy Ghost work repentance in the heart of a sinner until that sinner finds himself at the feet of a crucified, buried, risen Lord as a lost sinner crying for mercy. It is one thing to preach Holy Ghost conviction; it is another thing to see Holy Ghost conviction fall upon the heart of a sinner stripping him of all his self-righteous rags and bringing him naked before a Sovereign God, who can save him or damn him, and then see that sinner cry for mercy until God moves to forgive him and clothe him with His righteousness. In the face of our present-day spiritual deadness, we seldom see such results of Holy Ghost conviction under our present-day preaching, but when it takes place, it is so new and amazing until folks will not at first accept it. such Holy Ghost conviction, which so strips a sinner until the world loses all attraction to that individual and he is so awakened to his lost, condemned condition before God and becomes so concerned about the salvation of his soul in Christ that he cannot rest – preaching that results in such Holy Ghost conviction is called by our present-day ministry, unwholesom, embarrassing and disturbing. The spiritual shallowness, religious froth, and religious profession of our present hour is so nauseating and so sickening, so damning blighting to the souls of men until by the grace of God I'll never cease to cry out against it. The average preacher today has no message for the souls of men.
Dordt
04-04-2012, 01:09 AM
The average preacher today has no message for the souls of men.
I have to agree with you on that one.
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