Ministerial "Bounderies"?

[Hnovilla]

His NAME is Jesus!


The most prominent Ministerial Office is, I believe, that of a Pastor. But this open question could be directed at any office.
So, do the duties of a Minister begin at the Temple's door, and end there? Or do they also begin and/or end at the respective parishioners' door(s)? Are they (the duties) excluded/voided at the door of another Minister's parishioner?


Brother villa

[drummerboy_dave]

If I understand what you're driving at, a pastor should never actively engage in drawing another pastor's people. Moreover, he should go out of his way to avoid the appearence of doing such.

True story: An Associate Pastor left his post and church to "pastor his own church". After recruiting several families to go with him, his "new church" is located within a few blocks of the old church. This is in a city with over 45 square miles and 200,000 people. If you ask me, he doesn't appear to be concerned about crossing ethical boundries.

If a person seeks the advice of a pastor who is not their own, that pastor should stay out of it and tell that person to go back and talk to their own pastor.

[Hnovilla]

His NAME is Jesus!


drummerboy_dave:
"If a person seeks the advice of a pastor who is not their own, that pastor should stay out of it and tell that person to go back and talk to their own pastor."

That's interesting.
So a pastor stops being a pastor at the doorstep, so to speak, of another pastor? What if the person in question feels intimidated or threatened by his/her pastor? Would you advice that person go to a layperson?


Brother villa

[drummerboy_dave]

His NAME is Jesus!


drummerboy_dave:
"If a person seeks the advice of a pastor who is not their own, that pastor should stay out of it and tell that person to go back and talk to their own pastor."

That's interesting. :agent: Not everyone will agree, that's just my take, if I were a pastor. As I read my statement again I would add that first of all, the layperson should have the character to avoid laying their whims on people/pastors. That's what prayer is for. If they still go to a pastor who is not their own, that pastor should do as I said before, but he should also pray with them before they part and continue to pray for the situation.


So a pastor stops being a pastor at the doorstep, so to speak, of another pastor? What if the person in question feels intimidated or threatened by his/her pastor? Would you advice that person go to a layperson?


Brother villa
No, he's still a pastor, preacher, man of God, etc. he just isn't the pastor of those people and should refrain from getting too involved in their personal lives. Not sure if I understand how a person could be threatened by their pastor, but I would suggest that if a person doesn't feel comfortable taking an issue to his pastor, that person should be seriously praying about it first of all. If after much prayer, the person is still uncomfortable about an issue then he/she should seek out an elder in the church that they are comfortable with and have a candid, confidential talk with them about the issue in detail. They should ask the elder(s) to pray with them about it and seek what other advice the elder can give them.

Sometimes an elder can help the person through a situation on their own, sometimes an elder can lead an indivdual in the right direction (give them encouragement and guidence) and sometimes just talking about things with someone is enough.

Mind you, it is difficult to touch all the bases when dealing in hypothetical situations. Perhaps I have taken this out of the context of where you were wishing to go.

[Hnovilla]

His NAME is Jesus


drummerboy_dave:
"They should ask the elder(s) to pray with them about it and seek what other advice the elder can give them.
Mind you, it is difficult to touch all the bases when dealing in hypothetical situations. Perhaps I have taken this out of the context of where you were wishing to go. "

I think we are going the same way.

Those are good answers/suggestions, Brother. At least for those who are a part of a congregation that is large enough to have deacons and elders, beside the Pastor. You seem to be coming from a point of view of a sheep that is mature enough to really know how to seek the Lord. When I began my walk, I found (in my understanding TODAY) smaller congregations (about 25-50 souls) that were children in Christ, and I found the Minister was not that much more mature than the sheep.

Would you ever suggest a meeting between the Pastors/Ministers ?


Brother villa