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coadie
11-21-2008, 12:46 AM
On an annualized basis, several countries that do not respect us have gotten their money cut off. Russia on an annualized basis sees it's export revenue fall by 500 billion dollars a year. Iran by 200 billion and Saudi by 350 billion. Of course oil will fluctuate but when we toss in Venezuela, some sassy dictatorships that disrespect us when their pockets are full, now are really cranky.
How will Chavez face his people that are for a larger part living on the state and supposedly fond of him. Is his job security threatened even tho he had his term limits removed? What about Russia? Iran can't afford to buy weapons suddenly. this just all came unraveled in the last 90 days. Saudis were shipping tankers full of money to deposit in European banks and now those banks have been cut off for new loans because they have no new money to lend.
Our economy is down 0-3% and some on the list are down 40%. The Saudi Arabs also lost some several hundred billion on hedging contracts and speculation for energy futures. By the way, Greenspan muttered something unintentional a few years ago about Eoro banks buying mortgaged backed securities from the US and they were gong to lose money and they did.
The end is near. I still see if the LORD tarries, we have hope and the rest have a mess. Bush is holding out and doesn't want anything to do with a global currency UK and switzerland are also not favorable but we all know how things can change. I have also heard others say President Bush is close to favoring a central currency.
I wish Obama well for our sake, but he is about as clueless as they come. If we put some heavy duty experienced strong leaders together, we don't have clear or easy solutions. I also see confusion in China because they are incredibly huge in numbers but so very dependent on selling us consumer products and having their other customers draw back.
Now on the reason we are here. I see stress on these troubled countries where we will see revival and evangelism. We had an evangelist visit Cuba this year and the seeds of revival are taking off there.
Manila1485
11-21-2008, 10:13 AM
I wonder if this worldwide financial crisis plays any part in globalization. I heard on the news the other day that some European countries want the US to get on the Euro train. I wonder what BHO thinks about it.
BrotherEastman
11-21-2008, 01:52 PM
I think it's great that they are angry. Now that we get a good supply of oil from Canada, maybe oil prices will stabalize, although I am not convinced that it will.
Hnovilla
11-26-2008, 01:42 PM
His NAME is Jesus!
Manila1485:
"I wonder if this worldwide financial crisis plays any part in globalization. I heard on the news the other day that some European countries want the US to get on the Euro train. I wonder what BHO thinks about it."
I still believe that it is definitely a part of the globalization, only we (the U.S.) must be completely bankrupt in order to establish a one world order. Has anyone else noticed that prices on goods are NOT coming down? Well, the middleman and the smaller companies bought their products at a premium (when oil prices escalated), and are now stuck with products they can barely sell. Off course the corporate greedsters have the reserves to stave off any REAL economic pain: because if the economy truly "stabilizes", they still tend to make $$$.
Brother villa
coadie
11-26-2008, 02:40 PM
His NAME is Jesus!
Manila1485:
"I wonder if this worldwide financial crisis plays any part in globalization. I heard on the news the other day that some European countries want the US to get on the Euro train. I wonder what BHO thinks about it."
I still believe that it is definitely a part of the globalization, only we (the U.S.) must be completely bankrupt in order to establish a one world order. Has anyone else noticed that prices on goods are NOT coming down? Well, the middleman and the smaller companies bought their products at a premium (when oil prices escalated), and are now stuck with products they can barely sell. Off course the corporate greedsters have the reserves to stave off any REAL economic pain: because if the economy truly "stabilizes", they still tend to make $$$.
Brother villaTypical left wing rants.
Are you calling them greedsters because they are incorporated?
Is it envy?
Are you just knocking them for their work at making a profit for their shareholders and god forbid continued employment security for workers.
No companies are to be stewards and maintain working capital. That is called solvency. Capitilism has always connected for selling to exceed the cost of labor and material.
In your communist attitude, it is bad. One commuinist quote I read yesterday was that companies made their income on a poison and pollution based economy. (he was a lawyer based in California which is really insolvent in addition to heading to moral bankruptcy.)
Yes prices on goods are coming down. Input costs cause a delay in price decreases.
Your thankgsgiving turkey may have eaten corn that cost 8 dollars a bushel. If corn is 3 -4 dolars today, the farmer doesn't get a refund on corn that has already been fed.
Manila1485
11-26-2008, 03:01 PM
I'm starting to wonder if I'm a greedster. :) I'm trying to figure out what makes someone a "corporate greedster" other than the obvious. It is because they make a profit? Is it because they keep the profits they make and don't pass it out among the lazy and listless? Is it because they make too much of a profit in the eyes of some? OR....is it evny on the part of those that don't make as much and just another name calling tactic?
I believe in helping the needy and I do it on a regular basis. In fact, my company sponsors charity events. Granted, my company is advertised at these events. Is that greedy on my part to want a bit of advertisement?
I don't believe in giving handouts to those that are lazy and do not try. If that makes me a "corporate greedster" then so be it.
coadie
11-26-2008, 03:27 PM
I'm starting to wonder if I'm a greedster. :) I'm trying to figure out what makes someone a "corporate greedster" other than the obvious. It is because they make a profit? Is it because they keep the profits they make and don't pass it out among the lazy and listless? Is it because they make too much of a profit in the eyes of some? OR....is it evny on the part of those that don't make as much and just another name calling tactic?
I believe in helping the needy and I do it on a regular basis. In fact, my company sponsors charity events. Granted, my company is advertised at these events. Is that greedy on my part to want a bit of advertisement?
I don't believe in giving handouts to those that are lazy and do not try. If that makes me a "corporate greedster" then so be it.
The working classes are taught that corporations are run by devils. They seemingly convinced hovnilla. Actuually today, My contemporaries say it takes weeks and a lot of hurdles to get loans and working capital. It was good to have liquidity. By the way it is now called stakeholders and giving back to the community is good. These days we see a lot of layoffs, The first waves are actually the low performers. It is greed to want a paycheck and not produce to earn it.
Our mortgage fiasco came from pressure to not be greedy and to make loans to people with no ability to repay. It backfired.
Manila1485
11-26-2008, 05:04 PM
The working classes are taught that corporations are run by devils. They seemingly convinced hovnilla. Actuually today, My contemporaries say it takes weeks and a lot of hurdles to get loans and working capital. It was good to have liquidity. By the way it is now called stakeholders and giving back to the community is good. These days we see a lot of layoffs, The first waves are actually the low performers. It is greed to want a paycheck and not produce to earn it.
Our mortgage fiasco came from pressure to not be greedy and to make loans to people with no ability to repay. It backfired.
Red: That is what I've been saying all along. Furthermore, when the gov't says lenders have to cater to the needs of those with that don't qualify they have to do it or get shut down. So what do you do to make them qualify? You create a program category that they, and others with similar credit situations, will fit into. Now you have "subprime" loans.
As a broker, when someone comes to me with bad credit and they don't have the means to qualify for conventional financing, I put their application through to a subprime lender. If I get an approval back from the lender, I cannot refuse to do the loan. On what grounds would I refuse? They will just go somewhere else and get it. I might as well accept the business rather than making them mad and possibly getting sued. And I charge them 1.5-2% on the front and at least 1% on the back (YSP) because it takes more work on my part to get a "clear to close" from the lender after underwriting than it does for someone with excellent credit. To give you an idea: On a $180,000 loan that translates into $4,500 being paid to me. $2,700 of it comes from what I charge on the front and the remaining $1,800 comes from what the lender pays me for giving the higher rate. Greedy? No. They probably couldn't get a better deal anywhere else.
Bottom Line: Brokers aren't responsible for bad loans. We have no part in approving the loan. Underwriters do. I can tell you right now that underwriters are way under paid for what they have to do. My job is pretty easy. Furthermore, if the government says to lenders "You have to come up with a program that fits the needs of those with marginal credit", what are the lenders to do? Refuse? Ultimately this subprime mess is the government's fault.
Blue: Why don't people see that? If I work and contribute to society, why shouldn't I make a profit and be able to keep it? Why is that greedy? Like you said, it's greedy to want everything handed to you without offering anything in return.
Hnovilla
11-26-2008, 06:21 PM
His NAME is Jesus!
Manila1485:
"Typical left wing rants.
Are you calling them greedsters because they are incorporated?
Is it envy?
I'm starting to wonder if I'm a greedster. I'm trying to figure out what makes someone a "corporate greedster" other than the obvious. It is because they make a profit? Is it because they keep the profits they make and don't pass it out among the lazy and listless? Is it because they make too much of a profit in the eyes of some? OR....is it envy on the part of those that don't make as much and just another name calling tactic?"
Do you think that anyone that is not like you or think as you do is "...lazy and listless..."? Then the Lord Jesus was lazy and listless because he did not desire "...the things that be of men...", but the things that be of God! Will you really rather be associated with men whose sole objective is to subject men and materials unto themselves?
coadie:
"The working classes are taught that corporations are run by devils. They seemingly convinced hovnilla. Actuually today, My contemporaries say...Our mortgage fiasco came from pressure to not be greedy and to make loans to people with no ability to repay. It backfired."
So you consider yourself part of the elite class? Are you making a judgment on the "working class" and , thereby, making exception of persons? Be carefu, Beloved. Look, either you are part and parcel of the corporate greedsters, or you make them out to be as honest (Christianlike) as yourself. Are they? Or are they not the ones who have used the deceit of riches to entice the people to follow pernecious ways? Do we not "...know the devices of satan..."?
Brother villa
Manila1485
11-26-2008, 08:16 PM
His NAME is Jesus!
Manila1485:
"Typical left wing rants.
Are you calling them greedsters because they are incorporated?
Is it envy?
I'm starting to wonder if I'm a greedster. I'm trying to figure out what makes someone a "corporate greedster" other than the obvious. It is because they make a profit? Is it because they keep the profits they make and don't pass it out among the lazy and listless? Is it because they make too much of a profit in the eyes of some? OR....is it envy on the part of those that don't make as much and just another name calling tactic?"
Do you think that anyone that is not like you or think as you do is "...lazy and listless..."? Then the Lord Jesus was lazy and listless because he did not desire "...the things that be of men...", but the things that be of God! Will you really rather be associated with men whose sole objective is to subject men and materials unto themselves?
coadie:
"The working classes are taught that corporations are run by devils. They seemingly convinced hovnilla. Actuually today, My contemporaries say...Our mortgage fiasco came from pressure to not be greedy and to make loans to people with no ability to repay. It backfired."
So you consider yourself part of the elite class? Are you making a judgment on the "working class" and , thereby, making exception of persons? Be carefu, Beloved. Look, either you are part and parcel of the corporate greedsters, or you make them out to be as honest (Christianlike) as yourself. Are they? Or are they not the ones who have used the deceit of riches to entice the people to follow pernecious ways? Do we not "...know the devices of satan..."?
Brother villa
Brother, you attributed part of a quote to me that wasn't mine. I'm sure it was in error, so no biggie. However, you did reference something that I said.
It has nothing to do with people that are like me and think like me. It has to do with being lazy and listless. Bottom line. Regardless of how one thinks he is either lazy or he isn't. I agree with what God's Word says. In short: You don't work, you don't eat. I'm not talking about those not able to work. That is something they can't help. Don't read anything into what I said. It means just what it says: "Lazy and listless". Face it, some people don't want to work and would rather be a burden on the government.
As for who I would rather associate with, first and foremost I prefer to associate with real Christians regardless of their backgrounds. Secondly, I prefer to associate myself with successful (but honest) people. I subject people to the power of others all the time and make money doing it; with their consent of course. Any time someone comes to see me about a mortgage they are well aware that they are subjecting themselves to the lender. They even sign to do so. The borrower is slave to the lender. That's in God's Word. It's paraphrased, but you get what I mean.
People do not become successful by running around with unsuccessful people. My success is because of God's blessing and favor on my life, first and secondly because of education, hard work and ambition. Because God has blessed me, I can in turn be a blessing to others.
coadie
11-27-2008, 12:37 AM
So you consider yourself part of the elite class? Are you making a judgment on the "working class" and , thereby, making exception of persons? Be carefu, Beloved. Look, either you are part and parcel of the corporate greedsters, or you make them out to be as honest (Christianlike) as yourself. Are they? Or are they not the ones who have used the deceit of riches to entice the people to follow pernecious ways? Do we not "...know the devices of satan..."?
Brother villa[/quote]
I don't know where the "elite class" comment comes from.
It seems so many of your posts demand you proving you are clueless about business. I take it you resent "corporate greedsters" because you don't have marketable skills they hire. Until people started living loner, corporations were the primary employers that provided pensions. Today very few gov jobs do and most mid size and smaller do not.
Now I will point out an item of ignorance you keep bringin g up. You paint corporations as "greedsters". Obviously it is corporations that are reqwuired to andswer to independent boards of directors and almost always have CPA's audit their financial statements. This is to find fraud and other problems. I suspect you are more comfy in a small company where you have no accountibility.
Even mid size and small corporations that have 401k retirement plans have audits. So you must be greedy and want to go under the radar. Do you file and pay taxes? Of course hard working folks give good service and companies grow. If they are no good, they die. larger companies have independent quality control and other processes in place to self regulate. If your preference is shady business practices, it is better to remain small.
Obviously business success comes from satisfying consumers. If people want greasy foos, they buy what they want. if you took a marketing class, yiou would learn the customer is king. Companies sell junk to people that want to buy junk.
Obviously Abraham did well and would be the poster child for your greedster label.
The God I worship blesses people. If yours doesn't , you need to repent. I don't have issues paying 90-150 dollars an hour for CPA's to audit my financials. I thank God we are blessed enough to have income to audit. Back to the thread. Most oil production in this world is government run and crooked and wastefull as could be. Russia is the worst today. In america, there are a lot of checks and balances. Saudi Arabia took Aramco away from its foreign owners many years ago and we find they have not had a new oil field discovered sonce then. Arabian american Oil company found the oil and all they do is pump it and get wealthy.
Please do yourself a favor and read some books about business. There are a lot of christian leaders in the business world. They do the best they know how. A small few make the others look bad.
Hnovilla
11-28-2008, 06:58 PM
His NAME is Jesus!
"Brother, you attributed part of a quote to me that wasn't mine. I'm sure it was in error, so no biggie. However, you did reference something that I said. "
I apologize: the error is mine. As for the part that you say WAS referenced to you...
Not everyone that is poor is cursed by God: nor is everyone that is well-to-do, or even "financially successful", is blessed by God. If you are blessed by the Lord, more power to you: for you are quite correct in that you are able to be a blessing to others.
But, Beloved, that is not the real issue. I do not label anyone a "greedster" because they have no want or need: nor because they are blessed by the Lord. Rather, they are those who have taken occasion to use the devises of this world system to betray and turn their backs on those who are in need...OF JOBS: and pitting the peoples needs one against his neighbor. That is not the way of the Lord.
coadie:
Why don't you try using scripture to witness to your belief system, instead of the Republican Platform?
Here's a good rule to follow: "The New Testament should NOT be interpreted in the light of the Old Testament; rather, the Old Testament should be interpreted in the light of the New Testament."
That is where your argumentation falls short.
Brother villa
Manila1485
11-29-2008, 11:03 AM
His NAME is Jesus!
"Brother, you attributed part of a quote to me that wasn't mine. I'm sure it was in error, so no biggie. However, you did reference something that I said. "
I apologize: the error is mine. As for the part that you say WAS referenced to you...
Not everyone that is poor is cursed by God: nor is everyone that is well-to-do, or even "financially successful", is blessed by God. If you are blessed by the Lord, more power to you: for you are quite correct in that you are able to be a blessing to others.
But, Beloved, that is not the real issue. I do not label anyone a "greedster" because they have no want or need: nor because they are blessed by the Lord. Rather, they are those who have taken occasion to use the devises of this world system to betray and turn their backs on those who are in need...OF JOBS: and pitting the peoples needs one against his neighbor. That is not the way of the Lord.
coadie:
Why don't you try using scripture to witness to your belief system, instead of the Republican Platform?
Here's a good rule to follow: "The New Testament should NOT be interpreted in the light of the Old Testament; rather, the Old Testament should be interpreted in the light of the New Testament."
That is where your argumentation falls short.
Brother villa
I never said that, implied that, nor do I believe that.
I use the devices of this world's system to my advantage and ultimately to the advantage of my brothers and sisters and for the furtherance of God's Kingdom.
coadie
11-29-2008, 11:12 AM
I never said that, implied that, nor do I believe that.
I use the devices of this world's system to my advantage and ultimately to the advantage of my brothers and sisters and for the furtherance of God's Kingdom.
In communism they attack stewardship and prosperity. They attack truth.
Mein Kampf. Gotta watch him.
coadie
11-29-2008, 11:43 AM
Brother, you attributed part of a quote to me that wasn't mine. I'm sure it was in error, so no biggie. However, you did reference something that I said.
It has nothing to do with people that are like me and think like me. It has to do with being lazy and listless. Bottom line. Regardless of how one thinks he is either lazy or he isn't. I agree with what God's Word says. In short: You don't work, you don't eat. I'm not talking about those not able to work. That is something they can't help. Don't read anything into what I said. It means just what it says: "Lazy and listless". Face it, some people don't want to work and would rather be a burden on the government.
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Divisiveness.
Hovnilla:
Off course the corporate greedsters have the reserves to stave off any REAL economic pain: because if the economy truly "stabilizes", they still tend to make $$$
Manilla, I was recruited as a young man out of my many years of education to be the President of a fast growing young company. I hired a CFO 2 times my age. He used his political status to get a lot of his family hired in different departments. He claimed to be a church man and didn't wait 4 weeks to start embezzling. He even came from a military service background.
He couldn't deal with envy and young tallent being prosperous. His children were my age. He started with disrespect. He called us greedy. This is how he justified theft which he called "social justice" He decided I wasn't worth as much as I made. Stealing from the "rich" is how the thieves justify "social justice"
They paint successful people as bad folks. They claim success was attained by cheating so they can steal and justify it by "making things right".
It is interesting how the devil feeds lies in peoples minds.
Hnovilla
11-29-2008, 03:21 PM
His NAME is Jesus!
Manila1485:
"I never said that, implied that, nor do I believe that.
I use the devices of this world's system to my advantage and ultimately to the advantage of my brothers and sisters and for the furtherance of God's Kingdom.
"
Anyone can tell you know the scriptures, Beloved: and I am positive that you are indeed a blessing to the Brethren. I do not believe that the "corporate greedsters" measure up to your Godly principles, nor do they have the same scruples you display. I also believe the Lord knows how to differentiate between cattle and cattle, and the goats from the sheep.
coadie:
Divisiveness.
They paint successful people as bad folks. They claim success was attained by cheating so they can steal and justify it by "making things right".
It is interesting how the devil feeds lies in peoples minds. "In communism they attack stewardship and prosperity. They attack truth.
Mein Kampf. Gotta watch him."
First things first.
Are you saying that the "corporate greedsters" are morally correct, or that there is no such thing as that because "mammon" is a blessing from God, and all financial success men attain is proof of their righteousness? If a person does not beleve that, do you consider the contrary teaching of that doctrine to be instigating "divisiveness" among the Brethren?
So you are a reader of "Mein Kampf"? Could Hitler be considered a "liberal", or an "ultra-conservative"? Surely he could not be considered a "liberal", for his doctrine was to the extreme right of communism, eh?
Successful people are not bad; rather, there are bad people who have been trying to define succeess: "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" Are governments not legalizing that which has been considered evil, and moralizing those things that are contrary to scripture? And under whose advise are they doing these things, if not from those who have devised a defacto government through their manipulations and lobbyings? Are these things being accomplished ONLY by the Democrats, or also by the Republican platforms? Am I "attacking" anyone here, personally: or am I coming against the corruption?
Come on, Beloved. Give me some scripture!
Brother villa
coadie
11-29-2008, 03:30 PM
I never said that, implied that, nor do I believe that.
I use the devices of this world's system to my advantage and ultimately to the advantage of my brothers and sisters and for the furtherance of God's Kingdom.
They are criminals. They don't obey the laws they write and they want to cheat and break contracts.
U.S. Moves Ahead on Oil, Gas Leases on Public Land
Decision Could Pose Problem for Obama
These democrats are a bucnh of croks.
The wrote these laws to get crude prices down and get republican support. Now Harry reid added an earmark to undo this a while back and got caught.
They seem to think like Muslims. Make a treaty to get what you want and break it any time you wish.
The Devil sure must be proud of these warped Liberal minds.
U.S. Moves Ahead on Oil, Gas Leases on Public Land
Decision Could Pose Problem for Obama
By Juliet Eilperin (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/staff/email/juliet+eilperin/)
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, November 29, 2008; Page A01
A decision by federal officials this week to press ahead with a controversial sale of oil and gas leases in eastern Utah is stoking the debate over how to balance the nation's needs for fossil fuels against concerns over the environmental impact on iconic national parks and other sensitive areas.
The Bush administration, which has sought to reduce American dependence on imports to meet the continuing demand for oil and gas, has aggressively pushed to open up energy exploration across broad swaths of the West, off both coasts, and in Alaska. But those initiatives regularly stir opposition from both environmentalists and advocates of faster development of alternative energy sources such as wind and solar power.
Over the last four fiscal years, a Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/The+Washington+Post+Company?tid=informline) analysis of Bureau of Land Management (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Bureau+of+Land+Management?tid=informline) records shows, the government has dramatically accelerated the pace of awarding oil and gas drilling permits on federal land. The total for the period is nearly triple the number issued in the corresponding years under former President Clinton (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Bill+Clinton?tid=informline), and the number of new wells sunk on federal land is more than double Clinton's record over the comparable period.
coadie
11-29-2008, 03:39 PM
His NAME is Jesus!
"Brother, you attributed part of a quote to me that wasn't mine. I'm sure it was in error, so no biggie. However, you did reference something that I said. "
I apologize: the error is mine. As for the part that you say WAS referenced to you...
sorry you got caught?
You have a bad attitude.
Genesis 3 is the first account of word twisting. I am afraid it is here to stay.
coadie
11-29-2008, 04:14 PM
coadie:
Divisiveness.
They paint successful people as bad folks. They claim success was attained by cheating so they can steal and justify it by "making things right".
It is interesting how the devil feeds lies in peoples minds. "In communism they attack stewardship and prosperity. They attack truth.
Mein Kampf. Gotta watch him."
First things first.
Are you saying that the "corporate greedsters" are morally correct, or that there is no such thing as that because "mammon" is a blessing from God, and all financial success men attain is proof of their righteousness? If a person does not beleve that, do you consider the contrary teaching of that doctrine to be instigating "divisiveness" among the Brethren?Stupid question!!
So you are a reader of "Mein Kampf"? Could Hitler be considered a "liberal", or an "ultra-conservative"? Surely he could not be considered a "liberal", for his doctrine was to the extreme right of communism, eh?
Am I "attacking" anyone here, personally: or am I coming against the corruption?
Come on, Beloved. Give me some scripture!
Brother villa
No "I am not saying that"............
Your dishonest strategy is to twist what opeople say and put words in my mouth.
You are not speaking against corruption because you haven't cited a case of corruption. You have just done what the sleazy ?democrats are famous for and paointed with a borad brush. :artist:
Of course I have read Mein Kampf. I am German and english is my second language. I also see your philosophies line up with mein Kampf. Much more than the bible or God forbid biblical humility.
We study peope like you in sociology. they want to take out companies that do well.
Your first step is to paint them as greedsters.
You must not believe in God who is the source of prosperity.
You have not opposed anything against corruption. You just judged all companies as "corporate greedsters" Typical Marxism.
In marxism there is a striving to the struggling classes to call themselves self righteous and supperior and justified in taking out companies and order. You are so transparent. We ghad your behavior and attitude styles in the putting of castro into power.
We are seeing a lot of p[eople killed in the oil fieldws of Nigeria that steal oil from the Large Corporate greedster oil companies.
Again stealing comes from hate toward those that have and justifying it as getting justice.
:pepsi:
Hnovilla
11-29-2008, 04:28 PM
His NAME is Jesus!
"sorry you got caught?
You have a bad attitude.
Genesis 3 is the first account of word twisting. I am afraid it is here to stay."
Beloved, I believe Brother Manila1485 knows I made an honest mistake and apologized in good faith. I am thankful that he pointed that out to me.
As for having a bad attitude, which one of this rules do you think manifests my "bad" attitude:
We inhabit two realms: a natural realm and a spiritual realm. The spiritual realm is manifested in the natural realm; and the natural realm testifies of the spiritual realm. They cannot contradict one another. Evil is evil, and Good is good.
All doctrine should be established by context, and or the mouth of two witnesses or three.
The New Testament should NOT be interpreted in the light of the Old Testament; rather, the Old Testament should be interpreted in the light of the New Testament.
Satan not only twisted God's Word in the Garden of Eden: he came right out and contradicted it with an outright lie.
I hope you are not inferring that I am twisting God's Word, Beloved. If you believe I could be, then you have an obligation before the Lord to correct me: and I'll thank you for it!
Twisting of God's Word is still here, but it is NOT "here to stay": The Holy Spirit is still IN his Church to "...guide us to all truth...", and is still operating in the Ministry. Furthermore, the Lord will take care of that when he returns with his saints and his angels.
Brotherr villa
coadie
12-04-2008, 09:07 AM
His NAME is Jesus!
"sorry you got caught?
You have a bad attitude.
Genesis 3 is the first account of word twisting. I am afraid it is here to stay."
Beloved, I believe Brother Manila1485 knows I made an honest mistake and apologized in good faith. I am thankful that he pointed that out to me.
As for having a bad attitude, which one of this rules do you think manifests my "bad" attitude:
We inhabit two realms: a natural realm and a spiritual realm. The spiritual realm is manifested in the natural realm; and the natural realm testifies of the spiritual realm. They cannot contradict one another. Evil is evil, and Good is good.
All doctrine should be established by context, and or the mouth of two witnesses or three.
The New Testament should NOT be interpreted in the light of the Old Testament; rather, the Old Testament should be interpreted in the light of the New Testament.
Satan not only twisted God's Word in the Garden of Eden: he came right out and contradicted it with an outright lie.
I hope you are not inferring that I am twisting God's Word, Beloved. If you believe I could be, then you have an obligation before the Lord to correct me: and I'll thank you for it!
Twisting of God's Word is still here, but it is NOT "here to stay": The Holy Spirit is still IN his Church to "...guide us to all truth...", and is still operating in the Ministry. Furthermore, the Lord will take care of that when he returns with his saints and his angels.
Brotherr villa
Some folks wanted punishment for corporate greedsters. "big Oil" or Halliburton
I know you were so excited about Big oil getting Big tax. Oil has dropped. Now Obama borrows this line about oil prosperity reparation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FnpaWQJO0&eurl=http://michellemalkin.com/&feature=player_embedded
Never mind. We will catch you next time you start making money.
Hnovilla
12-06-2008, 01:51 PM
His NAME is Jesus!
coadie:
"I know you were so excited..."
There really is not very much to get excited about yet. Apparently, though, you only hear and respond to your personal viewpoints. I am trying to understand you, since you seem to be suffering from myopia. I hope you gett better soon. Have you been to an opthalmologist? I hear they working working miracles, now!
Brother villa
coadie
12-06-2008, 04:20 PM
His NAME is Jesus!
coadie:
"I know you were so excited..."
There really is not very much to get excited about yet. Apparently, though, you only hear and respond to your personal viewpoints. I am trying to understand you, since you seem to be suffering from myopia. I hope you gett better soon. Have you been to an opthalmologist? I hear they working working miracles, now!
Brother villaYou have confirmed that you struggle with differentiating audiologists and opthamologists. O.D's do not deal with hearing. D.O.'s don't either for the most part.
Hnovilla
12-07-2008, 09:26 PM
His NAME is Jesus!
Let me try to explain it to you. Please do not take it as a personal insult: many good people suffer from these ailments. Basically,
myopia=nearsightedness
ophthalmology=study of eyesight.
This could be cured by "...the renewing of your mind..."
As for the hearing, it seems to be "myopic" in nature as far as your seeming ability to "listen" to anything but your own voice; however, it could be a symptom only of selective hearing. But, you might want to check it out with an audiologist.
I really hope this helps.
Brother villa
coadie
12-08-2008, 10:19 AM
I think it's great that they are angry. Now that we get a good supply of oil from Canada, maybe oil prices will stabalize, although I am not convinced that it will.
We have a new canadian pipeline going to the Cushing 0l hub. If feeds several non gulf coast refineries
coadie
12-08-2008, 10:36 AM
His NAME is Jesus!
Let me try to explain it to you. Please do not take it as a personal insult: many good people suffer from these ailments. Basically,
myopia=nearsightedness
ophthalmology=study of eyesight.
This could be cured by "...the renewing of your mind..."
As for the hearing, it seems to be "myopic" in nature as far as your seeming ability to "listen" to anything but your own voice; however, it could be a symptom only of selective hearing. But, you might want to check it out with an audiologist.
I really hope this helps.
Brother villa
Myopia is not connected to hearing.
Nor the topic of this thread. You have nothing but ad hom attacks?
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