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Originalist
01-12-2009, 03:17 PM
I'm a former Assemblies of God minister. I came to God on Oct 29,1980 just two weeks after my 15th birthday. God radically changed my life and it's been me and Jesus ever since.

I attended Jimmy Swaggart Bible College from Sept 1984- May of 1988. I was there when he had his "difficulties".

I was licensed with the Assemblies of God from 1986-1993.

In 1992 I was convinced through study and prayer of the Oneness of the Godhead and the fact that the Apostles invoked the Name of Jesus in baptism.

Knowing that anyone I baptized from that day forward I would be baptizing in Jesus' name, I contacted a local UPC minister and asked him to baptize me in Jesus Name. I could not lead others where I had never been myself.

Let me say from the start that I love everyone and am not confrontational by nature. However, when it comes to the things of God, church, and ministry, I am not afraid to state my mind.

Some of you are going to love me, some will consider me a thorn in their side. If you "think outside of the box", we'll get along. If you think ACTS 2:38 is the end all, and that's all you dwell on, you won't like me. If you think the Oneness Pentecostal movement is not in just as much need of correction and rebuke as the Trinitarians are, you will not like me.

Please don't take me wrong. We'll probably get along 99% of the time, and I always am respectful and say everything in love. I DO NOT make personal attacks. But I'm not afraid to speak out against bad thinking and error.

God bless all of you!

John Atkinson
01-12-2009, 03:31 PM
I'm a former Assemblies of God minister. I came to God on Oct 29,1980 just two weeks after my 15th birthday. God radically changed my life and it's been me and Jesus ever since.

I attended Jimmy Swaggart Bible College from Sept 1984- May of 1988. I was there when he had his "difficulties".

I was licensed with the Assemblies of God from 1986-1993.

In 1992 I was convinced through study and prayer of the Oneness of the Godhead and the fact that the Apostles invoked the Name of Jesus in baptism.

Knowing that anyone I baptized from that day forward I would be baptizing in Jesus' name, I contacted a local UPC minister and asked him to baptize me in Jesus Name. I could not lead others where I had never been myself.

Let me say from the start that I love everyone and am not confrontational by nature. However, when it comes to the things of God, church, and ministry, I am not afraid to state my mind.

Some of you are going to love me, some will consider me a thorn in their side. If you "think outside of the box", we'll get along. If you think ACTS 2:38 is the end all, and that's all you dwell on, you won't like me. If you think the Oneness Pentecostal movement is not as in just as much need of correction and rebuke as the Trinitarians are, you will not like me.

Please don't take me wrong. We'll probably get along 99% of the time, and I always am respectful and say everything in love. I DO NOT make personal attacks. But I'm not afraid to speak out against bad thinking and error.

God bless all of you!

Well, I guess we'll probably get along Acts 2:38 is like the lobby of a vast museum, you have to go through it to get to the good stuff. And it is filled with all the pretty brochures promising the good stuff inside.

But you just can't stay in the lobby. Need to move on experience the stuff waiting inside.

And for your second part, I kinda find the movement at large to be a bit carnal and too absorbed with this world. And in need of correction and rebuke.


WELCOME!!!!!

angelindesguise
01-12-2009, 04:29 PM
Welcome to the Forum Originalist.

Originalist
01-12-2009, 05:53 PM
"And for your second part, I kinda find the movement at large to be a bit carnal and too absorbed with this world. And in need of correction and rebuke."

Amen! In spite of outward holiness standards, that ol' vanity and ego finds a way to rear its ugly head. It all goes back to a lack of yearning for the heart of God. Oh, but that would require complete honesty with ourselves and we wouldn't be able to hind behind choir membership, shouting, and "church busyness" anymore! We can't have that, now can we??!! (wink wink)

grumpyhillbilly
01-12-2009, 06:32 PM
Welcome

MawMaw
01-12-2009, 10:45 PM
Welcome to the GNC Family! :)

Victorious
06-20-2009, 11:45 AM
Welcome to the forum. It's been over a year since I posted anything, but a lot has happened in that time. Some have read my posts and a few know my testimony. I was raised Pentecostal Holiness and came to the revelation of the Oneness of God around 1999-2000, but continued going to trinitarian churches because my wife and her family are not convinced that Jesus Christ is truly the One God become flesh. In their mind the Oneness doctrine is a cult. In October of last year, after several months of God dealing with my heart, I began attending Northside UPC in Fort Smith, AR. I had visited several times with a dear friend that was instrumental in God revealing His truth to me. I decided that I needed that fellowship with like-minded believers in order to strengthen my faith and keep from backsliding into an apathetic condition. It has not been easy considering that my wife and children refuse to go with me, choosing rather to go somewhere else to church. God has been with me and it seems that my wife and I are getting along better than we have in quite some time. Making a decision to stand for TRUTH always works out right.

MawMaw
06-20-2009, 12:13 PM
Welcome to the forum. It's been over a year since I posted anything, but a lot has happened in that time. Some have read my posts and a few know my testimony. I was raised Pentecostal Holiness and came to the revelation of the Oneness of God around 1999-2000, but continued going to trinitarian churches because my wife and her family are not convinced that Jesus Christ is truly the One God become flesh. In their mind the Oneness doctrine is a cult. In October of last year, after several months of God dealing with my heart, I began attending Northside UPC in Fort Smith, AR. I had visited several times with a dear friend that was instrumental in God revealing His truth to me. I decided that I needed that fellowship with like-minded believers in order to strengthen my faith and keep from backsliding into an apathetic condition. It has not been easy considering that my wife and children refuse to go with me, choosing rather to go somewhere else to church. God has been with me and it seems that my wife and I are getting along better than we have in quite some time. Making a decision to stand for TRUTH always works out right.

Thanking God with you for your taking a stand for your family. I'll sure believe with you that God will continue drawing your wife and children into complete Truth! :)

And, welcome back to GNC!!! :nerd2:

jhlent
06-20-2009, 01:08 PM
Welcome to the forum. It's been over a year since I posted anything, but a lot has happened in that time. Some have read my posts and a few know my testimony. I was raised Pentecostal Holiness and came to the revelation of the Oneness of God around 1999-2000, but continued going to trinitarian churches because my wife and her family are not convinced that Jesus Christ is truly the One God become flesh. In their mind the Oneness doctrine is a cult. In October of last year, after several months of God dealing with my heart, I began attending Northside UPC in Fort Smith, AR. I had visited several times with a dear friend that was instrumental in God revealing His truth to me. I decided that I needed that fellowship with like-minded believers in order to strengthen my faith and keep from backsliding into an apathetic condition. It has not been easy considering that my wife and children refuse to go with me, choosing rather to go somewhere else to church. God has been with me and it seems that my wife and I are getting along better than we have in quite some time. Making a decision to stand for TRUTH always works out right.WOOOHOOO Now there is a Testimony that stands UP & OUT....

GOOD For you - May the Lord Strengthen you & Encourage you
And that your Family be Blessed through your standing for Truth.

jhlent
06-20-2009, 01:43 PM
Let me say from the start that I love everyone and am not confrontational by nature. However, when it comes to the things of God, church, and ministry, I am not afraid to state my mind.

Some of you are going to love me, some will consider me a thorn in their side. If you "think outside of the box", we'll get along. If you think ACTS 2:38 is the end all, and that's all you dwell on, you won't like me. If you think the Oneness Pentecostal movement is not in just as much need of correction and rebuke as the Trinitarians are, you will not like me.

Please don't take me wrong. We'll probably get along 99% of the time, and I always am respectful and say everything in love. I DO NOT make personal attacks. But I'm not afraid to speak out against bad thinking and error.

God bless all of you!
WOW what an open ended statement....
That can mean anything from:
Ultra Conservationism
to
Ultra Liberalism

No Standards... FREEDOM For all....??

As Bro John stated... Acts 2:38 is the Lobby/Foyer into the Church Realm
Some corridors lead us to some very exciting things.
Some corridors lead us to life transforming experiences.
Some corridors lead us to areas that continually draw us ever deeper & deeper into Him.
Some corridors lead us down a dark dimly lit hall way leading us to a door way - and beyond that door is the dumpster filled with malcontent "I" have the knowledge of whats wrong with the Church type people....

And "YES" I do agree some people just NEVER seem to leave the lobby...
they find them selves a soap box and attempt to keep so many others from venturing down the many corridors that the Lord has designed for us. They also have the same corridor of malcontentment

I have grown so weary of both types over the years...
WAY TO MUCH TALK - about what is wrong
WAY TO LITTLE TALK - about what we can do to bring in a Deeper Move of the LORD...

As broken in body as I am - I still Love to Fast & Pray...
Give me a man that - "Loves to Humble himself & Pray" -
A man that is willing to see his own errors -
A man that allows my standards to remain mine -
A man that allows my convictions to remain mine -
A man that will show me my errors in Love & Humility -

Is a man that I enjoy spending time with - talking with - listen to - converse with - Humble & Pray with - and don't mind venturing down most any corridor with.......


p.s. - I too - -
" But I'm not afraid to speak out against bad thinking and error. "


So I see your from the east coast of Fla. - I love it down that way.
I use to go down that way often - and need to get back down there for a visit.

Until Then

tufluv
06-20-2009, 08:43 PM
I'm a former Assemblies of God minister. I came to God on Oct 29,1980 just two weeks after my 15th birthday. God radically changed my life and it's been me and Jesus ever since.

I attended Jimmy Swaggart Bible College from Sept 1984- May of 1988. I was there when he had his "difficulties".

I was licensed with the Assemblies of God from 1986-1993.

In 1992 I was convinced through study and prayer of the Oneness of the Godhead and the fact that the Apostles invoked the Name of Jesus in baptism.

Knowing that anyone I baptized from that day forward I would be baptizing in Jesus' name, I contacted a local UPC minister and asked him to baptize me in Jesus Name. I could not lead others where I had never been myself.

Let me say from the start that I love everyone and am not confrontational by nature. However, when it comes to the things of God, church, and ministry, I am not afraid to state my mind.

Some of you are going to love me, some will consider me a thorn in their side. If you "think outside of the box", we'll get along. If you think ACTS 2:38 is the end all, and that's all you dwell on, you won't like me. If you think the Oneness Pentecostal movement is not in just as much need of correction and rebuke as the Trinitarians are, you will not like me.
Please don't take me wrong. We'll probably get along 99% of the time, and I always am respectful and say everything in love. I DO NOT make personal attacks. But I'm not afraid to speak out against bad thinking and error.

God bless all of you!

Welcome to GNC! ;)
I have a brief comment and then I'll go away. ;)

Its not about "liking" you or not.
I disagree with a portion of your words that I bolded in your quote above.,
Sorry but correct and rebuke "like" or "as" the Trini's? No way., it doesn't even compare. Their error [doctrine] is FATAL., and definitely in need of rebuke.
Any correction regarding ONENESS is relative to the 'individual'., not to doctrine.

..and thats my opinion I wanted to make. I too am not wishing to be
confrontational., each individual must make a stand, though., for truth, come what may.

Oh and a happy Fathers Day to you (if it applies) ;)