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MawMaw
03-04-2010, 03:34 PM
This is interesting..........

Chilean Quake May Have Shortened Earth Days

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/earth/globe-modis-640.jpg

This view of Earth comes from NASA's Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer aboard the Terra satellite.


March 01, 2010

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2010-071&icid=MostViewSub


The Feb. 27 magnitude 8.8 earthquake in Chile may have shortened the length of each Earth day.

JPL research scientist Richard Gross computed how Earth's rotation should have changed as a result of the Feb. 27 quake. Using a complex model, he and fellow scientists came up with a preliminary calculation that the quake should have shortened the length of an Earth day by about 1.26 microseconds (a microsecond is one millionth of a second).

Perhaps more impressive is how much the quake shifted Earth's axis. Gross calculates the quake should have moved Earth's figure axis (the axis about which Earth's mass is balanced) by 2.7 milliarcseconds (about 8 centimeters, or 3 inches). Earth's figure axis is not the same as its north-south axis; they are offset by about 10 meters (about 33 feet).

By comparison, Gross said the same model estimated the 2004 magnitude 9.1 Sumatran earthquake should have shortened the length of day by 6.8 microseconds and shifted Earth's axis by 2.32 milliarcseconds (about 7 centimeters, or 2.76 inches).

Gross said that even though the Chilean earthquake is much smaller than the Sumatran quake, it is predicted to have changed the position of the figure axis by a bit more for two reasons. First, unlike the 2004 Sumatran earthquake, which was located near the equator, the 2010 Chilean earthquake was located in Earth's mid-latitudes, which makes it more effective in shifting Earth's figure axis. Second, the fault responsible for the 2010 Chiliean earthquake dips into Earth at a slightly steeper angle than does the fault responsible for the 2004 Sumatran earthquake. This makes the Chile fault more effective in moving Earth's mass vertically and hence more effective in shifting Earth's figure axis.

Gross said the Chile predictions will likely change as data on the quake are further refined.

missourimary
03-04-2010, 05:14 PM
I don't know. I've had a feeling lately that there just wasn't enough time in my day...

;)

Deonna
03-04-2010, 10:33 PM
I just heard about this tonight ~ wow!

ddc101
03-05-2010, 01:56 PM
Thanks for the link sis.

meagain
03-05-2010, 03:22 PM
Their are too many people on the planet, and unfortunately, something needs to be done to reduce the population. Harsh but true. However no one wants to volunteer themselves or their family. But I do think that mankind will die soon unless something is done about over population. This is probably the start of Gods way of saving the human race.

It looks like God is finally getting around to shortening the days for the elects sake. Otherwise, we may all perish.

Just Don
03-06-2010, 01:48 PM
Their are too many people on the planet, and unfortunately, something needs to be done to reduce the population. Harsh but true. However no one wants to volunteer themselves or their family. But I do think that mankind will die soon unless something is done about over population. This is probably the start of Gods way of saving the human race.

It looks like God is finally getting around to shortening the days for the elects sake. Otherwise, we may all perish.

How about forced abortion for every other baby and kill off everyone over the age of 62? Rather than sending anyone to prison just take them out and shoot them. See how easy that was. Oh, I forgot only allow those to live who are in good health and good to look at. Ugly people don't deserve to live anyhow. Think of how much money we'd be saving.:redcool:

meagain
03-06-2010, 03:52 PM
Well that days a comin also bud. Which would you rather have deciding this? God or some govt.? Has it ever occured to anyone that the planet just might view us as a virus, which has no benefits in existing at all?? What happens to a cold virus when it affects the body in question? The body goes about the business of destroying it, with only a scant bit of the virus left for immunity purposes.

We were put here for Gods pleasure, and to try to the best of our ability to live how we think he wants us too. That's it. We do not benefit this planet in ANY way. Fly maggots have more use then us. If we get irresponsible and abusive with tending to the planet he put us on, I believe the planet will begin it's own human destruct sequence. It may be something that has been programmed by God just like every other survival technique on this world and in our bodies.

meagain
03-06-2010, 03:55 PM
But look on the bright side: Another earthquake will no doubt strike on the opposite side of the world, knocing the axis back the other way and fixing time to where it used to be.

Abigail4476
03-06-2010, 04:22 PM
Well that days a comin also bud. Which would you rather have deciding this? God or some govt.? Has it ever occured to anyone that the planet just might view us as a virus, which has no benefits in existing at all?? What happens to a cold virus when it affects the body in question? The body goes about the business of destroying it, with only a scant bit of the virus left for immunity purposes.

We were put here for Gods pleasure, and to try to the best of our ability to live how we think he wants us too. That's it. We do not benefit this planet in ANY way. Fly maggots have more use then us. If we get irresponsible and abusive with tending to the planet he put us on, I believe the planet will begin it's own human destruct sequence. It may be something that has been programmed by God just like every other survival technique on this world and in our bodies.

It's odd how you refer to the the planet as if it's an independent, thinking entity. :nerd2:

1. God created the earth for us; not the other way around. Yes, we should be good stewards, but that's what we owe GOD for His benevolence; not the planet. The resources of this planet are FOR us; we are not meant to benefit the planet. The planet is meant to benefit us.

2. If (when) man is destroyed, it will be because of sin; not due to the planet going on a vengeful self-purge.

3. God has not given us any sort of instruction to limit the population. He said to "be fruitful and multiply."

Personally, I think you've been watching too many Discovery channel shows and/or too much sci-fi. :borg:

Deonna
03-06-2010, 10:18 PM
It's odd how you refer to the the planet as if it's an independent, thinking entity. :nerd2:

1. God created the earth for us; not the other way around. Yes, we should be good stewards, but that's what we owe GOD for His benevolence; not the planet. The resources of this planet are FOR us; we are not meant to benefit the planet. The planet is meant to benefit us.

2. If (when) man is destroyed, it will be because of sin; not due to the planet going on a vengeful self-purge.

3. God has not given us any sort of instruction to limit the population. He said to "be fruitful and multiply."

Personally, I think you've been watching too many Discovery channel shows and/or too much sci-fi. :borg:

Amen!

MawMaw
03-06-2010, 11:12 PM
It's odd how you refer to the the planet as if it's an independent, thinking entity. :nerd2:

1. God created the earth for us; not the other way around. Yes, we should be good stewards, but that's what we owe GOD for His benevolence; not the planet. The resources of this planet are FOR us; we are not meant to benefit the planet. The planet is meant to benefit us.

2. If (when) man is destroyed, it will be because of sin; not due to the planet going on a vengeful self-purge.

3. God has not given us any sort of instruction to limit the population. He said to "be fruitful and multiply."

Personally, I think you've been watching too many Discovery channel shows and/or too much sci-fi. :borg:

To this post I also say Amen! :)

meagain
03-07-2010, 06:06 PM
It's odd how you refer to the the planet as if it's an independent, thinking entity. :nerd2:

1. God created the earth for us; not the other way around. Yes, we should be good stewards, but that's what we owe GOD for His benevolence; not the planet. The resources of this planet are FOR us; we are not meant to benefit the planet. The planet is meant to benefit us.

2. If (when) man is destroyed, it will be because of sin; not due to the planet going on a vengeful self-purge.

3. God has not given us any sort of instruction to limit the population. He said to "be fruitful and multiply."

Personally, I think you've been watching too many Discovery channel shows and/or too much sci-fi. :borg:

The planet might not have a sense of conscious as we know it, but it is very much alive. And while God put us on here to be good stewards of the planet and use it's resources as needed, we have been blatantly abusive within the last generation or so of our power given to us. We are over consuming and being wasteful. We have been irresponsible with our resources and I think anyone who doesn't recognize this is downright foolish.

meagain
03-07-2010, 06:08 PM
What collasal arrogance to think that the planet was put here for US. God made the planets for his own pleasure and we are just a package deal.

Abigail4476
03-07-2010, 11:43 PM
What colossal arrogance to think that the planet was put here for US. God made the planets for his own pleasure and we are just a package deal.

Wow, thanks. :blink:

Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

I'm not arrogant, meagain. God provided the earth's resources for us. We should be thankful, and we should be good stewards of what He has given us. God created man for a purpose, and to think we are just part of some "package" deal of things created for His pleasure is really to undermine His compassion and nature. He created a LOT of things just for our pleasure and benefit.

Abigail4476
03-08-2010, 12:02 AM
The planet might not have a sense of conscious as we know it, but it is very much alive. And while God put us on here to be good stewards of the planet and use it's resources as needed, we have been blatantly abusive within the last generation or so of our power given to us. We are over consuming and being wasteful. We have been irresponsible with our resources and I think anyone who doesn't recognize this is downright foolish.

Of course the planet it alive. God gave the planet life. :) It sounds odd to characterize it as being independent, [from God] capable of the motivation to purge itself of a human parasite. That could never actually happen unless God allowed humanity to be destroyed.

Many people are irresponsible with resources, that's a fact. However, many of the "facts" put out by green-propoganda groups are inflated. I understand WHY they do that--they want to persuade people to do better. However, a reasonable person will also understand that the earth is vast, and has resources capable of sustaining a huge population. Since God instructed us to be fruitful and multiply, we can assume that having a large population of people is NOT the problem, because He wouldn't give a commandment that would lead us down a path of destruction.

Christians should handle resources wisely, but from a different perspective. We teach our children that they are to use resources wisely, because God provided them for us, and that means we should be good stewards of His provision. We address being eco-friendly, frugal and recycling/reusing, but it is a God-centered approach. The basic principles for conservation can be found in God's Word. When you get outside those principles, as with any other topic, you can find yourself going to one extreme or the other. God's Word offers balance and allows us to be centered in our beliefs.

PlasterOfParis
03-08-2010, 09:56 AM
If an earthquake can shorten the earth's days then it has likely happened many times in the history of the planet.

searching
03-08-2010, 11:43 AM
How about forced abortion for every other baby and kill off everyone over the age of 62? Rather than sending anyone to prison just take them out and shoot them. See how easy that was. Oh, I forgot only allow those to live who are in good health and good to look at. Ugly people don't deserve to live anyhow. Think of how much money we'd be saving.:redcool:

Ah, don't give anyone ideas. This is what Obama is trying to get passed in his healthcare reform anyway.

searching
03-08-2010, 11:45 AM
None of us here have to worry about losing time anyway. By the time the days are shortened by a second, more time will have passed from now til then than from the days of Adam to now.

meagain
03-08-2010, 12:22 PM
Wow, thanks. :blink:

Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

I'm not arrogant, meagain. God provided the earth's resources for us. We should be thankful, and we should be good stewards of what He has given us. God created man for a purpose, and to think we are just part of some "package" deal of things created for His pleasure is really to undermine His compassion and nature. He created a LOT of things just for our pleasure and benefit.

I'm sorry Abigail, but it just blows my mind how we like to talk about how incredibly evil mankind has become on every other issue, yet when it comes to the earth and the abuse of it, it's as though no one can do any wrong. Just because God GAVE man the earth, doesn't mean he OWNS it. Our children are a gift from God, but we don't OWN them, and we certainly don't have the right to abuse them or our authority as parents in any way.

I can' t think of a better example of how we have abused this priviledge then with the case of the buffalo. The over killing of whales might be another. Thank God we realized the error of our attitude concerning these two species before it was too late.

It's just like when my husband and I hire a gardener or a landscaper for our five acre property. We aren't into farming so we leave it to other people. We let them decided what goes where, and how many animals can afford to be eaten without threatening the "herd" from being extinct on our land. Since we "own" the land, it is up to us to decide these things. That however, does not give us the right to poison the well water, or dump oil, trash or burn up the whole landscape simply on the basis that we legally 'own" the property. If our behavior has a negative impact on the neighboring lands, or environment, we could be fined or jailed.

Abigail4476
03-08-2010, 12:49 PM
I'm sorry Abigail, but it just blows my mind how we like to talk about how incredibly evil mankind has become on every other issue, yet when it comes to the earth and the abuse of it, it's as though no one can do any wrong. Just because God GAVE man the earth, doesn't mean he OWNS it. Our children are a gift from God, but we don't OWN them, and we certainly don't have the right to abuse them or our authority as parents in any way.

Where did I say we have the right to abuse anything? Did you actually read my post? :)

I can' t think of a better example of how we have abused this priviledge then with the case of the buffalo. The over killing of whales might be another. Thank God we realized the error of our attitude concerning these two species before it was too late.

It's just like when my husband and I hire a gardener or a landscaper for our five acre property. We aren't into farming so we leave it to other people. We let them decided what goes where, and how many animals can afford to be eaten without threatening the "herd" from being extinct on our land. Since we "own" the land, it is up to us to decide these things. That however, does not give us the right to poison the well water, or dump oil, trash or burn up the whole landscape simply on the basis that we legally 'own" the property. If our behavior has a negative impact on the neighboring lands, or environment, we could be fined or jailed.My father was an avid hunter, meagain, but he NEVER hunted for sport. He taught us that whatever you kill, you eat, or you don't kill it. This is what I mean by balance. It's not wrong to hunt animals for food, but it is wrong to use the resource wastefully or out of greed and pride. These are things you can find principles for in scripture.

OBVIOUSLY I would never advocate poisoning well water, dumping oil & trash, littering, etc. If you got that sort of irresponsible permissiveness out of my posts, you really didn't read them.

The earth belongs to GOD, but He placed these resources here for OUR use. YES, He expects us to be good stewards (hence the replenish part of the verse in Genesis), and unfortunately many people have been wasteful, greedy, trashy, ungrateful, careless & malicious with His gifts.

I'm not sure how those statements really disagree with your views on being green.