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cinthia
09-24-2003, 05:03 PM
I was recently reading a thread and a brother was talking about his pastor very kindly and said as his pastor was preaching that there was an aura about him and he was sure that it was the Holy Ghost anointing him. Maybe I am wrong, but I thought once you were filled with the Holy Ghost that you were anointed, I have never heard of a second anointing.I always wonder why people pray for Holy Ghost filled people and say things like, "Lord anoint his lips" and things like that. I think it sounds so wierd. I think it is more biblical to pray " God I pray that Bro.So and so would yeild to your spirit" or "I pray that your spirit would guide so and so". The Spirit is the anointing. Do people really believe that you can be anointed again, once you have recieved the spirit?
ddc101
09-24-2003, 07:13 PM
Heres what I got when I looked it up.
ANOINT, ANOINTING
Priests, kings, and prophets were anointed. Oil was poured on the head of the person being anointed <Ex. 29:7>. Kings were set apart through the ritual of anointing, which was performed by a prophet who acted in God's power and authority <1 Sam. 15:1>. The Old Testament also records two instances of the anointing of a prophet <1 Kin. 19:16; Is. 61:1>.
Jesus the Messiah is described as "anointed." This description is found in the psalms of the Old Testament which prophesy the coming of Christ and in the preaching of the apostle Peter in the Book of Acts.
In the New Testament, anointing was frequently used in connection with healing. The Holy Spirit's activities in a believer's life are pictured in terms associated with anointing. Jesus' disciples anointed the sick <Mark 6:13>, and James instructed the elders of the church to anoint the sick with oil <James 5:14>. This anointing was for the purpose of healing.
Anointing in the New Testament also refers to the anointing of the Holy Spirit, which brings understanding <1 John 2:20,27>. This anointing is not only for kings, priests, and prophets; it is for everyone who believes in the Lord Jesus Christ. The anointing occurs physically with a substance such as oil, myrrh, or balsam. But this is also a spiritual anointing, as the Holy Spirit anoints a person's heart and mind with the love and truth of God.
lv sis.c
cinthia
09-24-2003, 08:59 PM
Ddc101, do you think there is a second anointing for people who are already filled with the spirit? I havw never heard of such a thing.
drummerboy_dave
09-24-2003, 10:59 PM
I don't think my remark caused any confusion or dilemma with scripture. They were only meant as a compliment.
I'll paraphrase a respected elder and say, that you can't eat steak one time and remain full for your entire life.
Don't you think it's wise, to continue seeking fresh oil to put into our vessels. The foolish virgins will tell you that it is.
Love ya,
cinthia
09-25-2003, 08:04 AM
Drummerboy,
Your comment did not confuse me, I have always wondered why some apostolics say things like the comment you made. Yes I believe that we need to be wise and not foolish like the 10 foolish virgins, I however do not think it is by a second annoiting.
I Believe that we keep our lamps burning with oil, through prayer and a relationship with Jesus.
I do not think you can compare Jesus with a steak, nothing on this earth will everkeep us full or satisfied, but Jesus said if we come to him we will never thirst again. The word is what feeds us. We need daily manna"The Word" .
God Bless
drummerboy_dave
09-25-2003, 09:19 AM
The foolish virgin's lamps were empty. They had no oil. No annointing. They went out, to try to find more oil. Which leads me to believe, that it was more out there for them to find.
I have no argument with you. I agree with most of your post. I suppose the thing that strikes my nerve is that you took my recollections of my pastor out of context, to begin this thread.
Are all who recieve the Holy Ghost, called to preach? One could say, that a calling to the ministry is a special annointing. I have heard it many times myself.
I've heard many preachers say while preaching, "Oh, I feel the annointing of God, right now". Does this mean that they weren't annointed before?
Nevermind, sis. They're all rhetorical questions. I'm not lashing out at you.
cinthia
09-25-2003, 02:58 PM
Bro. Drummerboy,
The foolish and the wise virgins did not have the Holy Ghost, the Holy Ghost had not been poured out yet.The Oil was a symbolism of the Holy Ghost.
I do not believe that their is a special annoiting for people who are ministers, I believe that it is a gift, just like the gift of prophecy , it is one of the giftings of the five fold ministry.
I do believe that we are all ministers of the word of God!
Sometimes I feel the annointing (the Holy Ghost) Stronger, I may shout or jump or dance, or get goose bumps up and down my spine or just feel him in a strong way, that does not indicate that their is a second annointing.
Do you think that you can be annointed for a second time? Do you think their is a special annointing for "Preachers"?
I hope you know that I was not picking on you, to be honest I just heard a teaching on this subject and it was fresh in my mind and I was amazed that their are people who really think this.
One of the things that I like about GNC is that you can get a wide variety of council on different subjects. I think it is awesome to be able to see what is being taught out their and to test it, you know hold it up next to Gods word and see if it is truth.
Sorry to strike your nerve, I really am just trying to get a better understanding.
God Bless,
ddc101
09-25-2003, 04:57 PM
I do not believe that their is a special annoiting for people who are ministers, I believe that it is a gift, just like the gift of prophecy , it is one of the giftings of the five fold ministry.
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Sister I disagree with this above statement.Simply because I am used in the gifts and preaching is entirely different than when prophecy or word of knowledge moves.Yes there is a different move of the Holy Ghost when you preach.Have you ever heard an evangelist behind the pulpit and they can barely get the words out as the Holy Ghost is on them in a more pronounced way than on the rest of us receiving? lv sis.c
cinthia
09-25-2003, 10:26 PM
Sister Ddc101,
I am used in the gifts also and I think it is no different, when the spirit is on me and I am giving a tongue or an interpertation, the spirit is not moving on everyone like that at the same time. Can you please give me some scripture that I can look up and read, because I do not see what you are saying.
Thanks,
ddc101
09-25-2003, 10:46 PM
Sister I can guarentee its different because I am used in the gifts and also preach and the annointing to preach is way heavier.
But for a good example go to Bro.Rutledges web site and listen to the tape by Bro.Cunningham on Annointing.After getting on this site today I did and his message on the annointing was awesome.lv sis.c
cinthia
09-26-2003, 03:00 PM
I still do not think because you "feel" it stronger when preaching, that it is a different annointing, that would mean that their is another spirit. Their are differnt giftings, but all are done by the same Spirit.
cinthia
09-26-2003, 03:02 PM
Sis.Ddc101,
Bro Dave Huston taught an awesome lesson on the annointing, if you are interested in the tape, I would be more than glad to send it to you.
ddc101
09-26-2003, 07:23 PM
I still do not think because you "feel" it stronger when preaching----------------------------------------
Sister that is something I have to disagree with you on.And no thanks on the tape.I know what Bro.Huston teaches and if he is your pastor then by all means discuss this with him.We are just a group to edify the local assembly not replace it.lv sis.c
cinthia
09-26-2003, 07:41 PM
Sis,
Okay that is fine, we can agree to disagree, but what did you mean when you said you know what Bro.Huston teaches? I support the local assembly, but are we not supposed to be one body? I would hope that if one of my brothers or sisters saw something in the word, that I did not see wether in my local church or not that they would tell me!
God Bless, Cinthia
ddc101
09-27-2003, 12:07 AM
I only said that I know what Brother Huston teaches concerning the ministry and eldership etc.So I do know where you are coming from.I do read his stuff on line and have his bible study.That is all I meant.Some stuff I feel is better discussed with him than me.I mean if you just feel to share what his view of annointing is then fine.It will probably bless someone.But I would rather not debate it.lv sis.c
cinthia
09-27-2003, 10:50 AM
Okay, Thank you for making that more clear. I do not want to debate it either, I am just really curious at why people believe the things they do. I hope you have a blessed day!
oops, do I pitch the song "Annointing . . . fall on me"????
<cheesy smile> <and a wink too>
this is my serious reply to the thread. The one right above this one was just a little humor, although I'm probably the only one who thought it was funny.
Cinthia, I noticed that you offered to send a copy of Bro. Huston's tape on anointing to Ddc. I would like to hear it. Would you send me a copy? I have read his books and even heard him preach before but not on this particular subject. I guess I never thought about it before. I mean how we pray for the Lord to anoint the preacher to do this or that -or- to anoint the service. I'm very curious.
I'm like you. If someone from another region of the country has more clarification of scripture than I already have, I'm willing to learn from it.
God bless.
survivor4christ
10-28-2003, 08:14 PM
Hi, Sis. Cinthia!
Just a couple of scriptures for your review...
1 Timothy 4:14
Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, ] with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery.
Hebrews 6
1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, [I]] and of laying on of hands,
and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
3 And this will we do, if God permit.
For greater revelation...
Revelation 3:18
I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and ] anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see .
there is the anointing of gladness..
Psalm 45:7
Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, ] thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
I also believe in spiritual impartation...(a really good thread on this is in the Daily Word forum of the Cafe..)
2 Kings 2
9 And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Elisha said, I pray thee,] let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me.
I do believe there are other 'anointings' if that is what you want to call them, after the initial one.
Actually, 'anointing' is sort of a misonomer. Maybe it can be called refreshings, impartations, whatever...
But I agree with Bro. Dave...there is one infilling but many refillings...
JMHO, Sis. Wenona
Sis. W, What does JMHO stand for?
MsMerryMac
11-01-2003, 08:54 PM
JMHO = Just My Humble Opinion
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