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nytxn1971
03-13-2003, 03:47 PM
An article from my friend's pastor...
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The Vision

"Where there is no vision, the people perish,"

(Proverbs 29:18).

The vision of a Home Friendship Group Church is critical to its success. This is true of all churches, but especially so for the Home Friendship Group Church. Before a pastor begins the transition to Home Friendship Groups, he should be completely consumed by the vision of Home Friendship Groups.

While churches meet many needs, moving to a Home Friendship Group based church will force your primary purpose to shift from in-reach to out-reach. While this sounds wonderful on the outset, you will find there are people in your congregation who come to church not to serve, but to be served. While they may agree in concept, when reality hits, they will not like the transition at all. It is only after experiencing serving that one realizes that he is best served when he serves others. Dealing with these difficulties can break down a pastor who is not totally committed to the Home Friendship Group vision.

While I am not attempting to spell out the entire Home Friendship Group vision in this article, it is my desire to show you the journey I took, and how I came to see the vision. I will leave the actual vision casting to those who are more qualified. My hope is that you can see how the vision developed in my eyes, and may benefit from your own journey into the mind of God to see what vision he has in store for you!

The vision takes a complete change in the way we view church. Let me share a letter I wrote to Pastor Rick Langford, my mentor, when God began to show me the vision of Home Friendship Groups.

A Pair Of Dimes

God just showed me something. We are doing it wrong. We are trying to give doctrine before we MINISTER to people. Our Paradigm is wrong (This involves Home Friendship Groups, but much more–it is what we do, not just how we do it. It is more than Apostolic Method (though that is important) It is Apostolic PURPOSE!) Our church image cannot work. I think you said this, but It just hit me. Now I see it from Adam to the New Jerusalem. I’ve worked as hard as I know how, but I’ve done it all wrong. Why did I fail to see this? What else am I failing to see?

The only ones I can find to whom Jesus administered doctrine before he ministered to their needs were the rich young ruler and the Pharisees. Nicodemus? No.

Nicodemus said, "Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these MIRACLES that thou doest, except God be with him," (John 3:2).

Nicodemus had already experienced the ministry of Jesus, if not directly, then at least he witnessed miracles and had a first hand experience of the MINISTRY of Jesus Christ. And Nicodemus did not ask for doctrine. He merely stated that Jesus had an awesome MINISTRY! Then Jesus gave him Doctrine! We must likewise be sensitive to see when our MINISTRY has been received, and the seeker is ready to receive Doctrine. Nicodemus was ready for the change of his entire concept of church only after he had experienced the MINISTRY of Jesus Christ. But when he was ready, He left neither sad nor angry.

The one who came, ASKED for doctrine and was GIVEN doctrine walked away sad. If even Jesus Christ–God in flesh–did not save the one who RECEIVED Doctrine before Ministry, Who are we to think that we can save anyone by giving them Doctrine before Ministry?

The ones Jesus Christ said were going to Hell, the Pharisees, most likely did just that. Some Pharisees were saved before all was said and done, as Paul is a witness, but most just went to Hell. If Jesus Himself telling them they were going to Hell did not cause them to be saved in one huge mass, who are we to think we can just tell people they are going to Hell, and then expect that to cause them to be saved?

I am not saying Jesus made a mistake in the way He dealt with these people, as he knows the hearts and intents of man. I am saying that He did this to show us something. He showed us how NOT to do it, and I find much of what I have called ministry in my lifetime is patterned exactly after the methods that Jesus showed will not work. We club seekers with the Gospel, and they go away sad. We clobber them with condemnation, and they go away mad. The common answer is, they go away.

Somehow, we have developed the mis-vision that all we must do is tell people they are wrong, or tell them what salvation is, and they will beat down the doors to get what we have told them about. We pump doctrine into a lost world and we are eager to damn them to Hell for rejecting our doctrine. But, if we had instead ministered the POWER of JESUS CHRIST to them, rather than pushing doctrine at them, would the same damned souls have rejected our MINISTRY?

If not, then their blood is on our hands.

Our doctrine is right. Make no bones about that. The Gospel saves, and without it man has no hope. The Gospel is the Power of God Unto Salvation. We must continue to preach Acts 2:38 as the only path to heaven just as fervently as ever. If we ever leave Acts 2:38, we have left everything.

But let us also be aware that Jesus ministered before he administered. He gave (ministered) Himself (His miracles were purchased by faith in the blood which was yet to be shed, but came from the lamb slain from the foundation of the world. His gift was Himself.) before He listed the requirements and administered the way one must live in what was then a New Kingdom..

If we tell the world by our testimony (that which we live) and our words that they are going to Hell, it may be true, but that does not, in and of itself, change anything. Without ministry before judgment, it is simply condemnation, not conviction. We have said for generations that we can just "live the life" before people and that will cause them to be saved. I’m not so sure I believe that anymore. We must do that, no question about it, but we must also do more. We cannot only "live the life" before them, we must MINISTER THE LIFE UNTO THEM. This I see, but I confess–I am not sure I even have a clue about how to MINISTER from the pulpit. I know how to preach a sermon. Lord, teach me to Minister!

100% of what I have done to try to reach the lost is wrong. I have given doctrine, whether wanted or not, without any attempt to help that person find their needs of THIS LIFE met in Jesus Christ. I have told them what is required, and like the rich young ruler, they have gone away sad. I have told them they are wrong and are going to Hell, and like the Pharisees, they have become angry. It is truly a miracle we have seen ANY AT ALL saved. I have administered the letter which kills, and I have failed to minister the Spirit which makes alive. God, forgive me! God, help me! I must not be just a preacher, I must become a MINISTER, and I don’t even know how.

The paradigm that must change is not just the idea of having church from house-to-house instead of in a building. But what must change is:

WHAT IS MY MISSION? (Just to stay saved? To save someone else? No.) Minister the Spirit and Power of God to someone, anyone, EVERYONE! And to most effectively do this, we must minister to the need that is felt by the seeker.

WHAT IS THE MISSION OF THE CHURCH? (Keep the saved safe? Minister to the needs of the saved? No.) Minister to the SEEKER and the SAINT in the power of the Holy Ghost!

HOW CAN I DO THAT? (Tell them they are going to Hell? Tell them what it takes to go to Heaven? No.) GIVE them something I received from God! "Such as I have, give I thee," (Acts 3:6) "For God so LOVED the world that he GAVE His only begotten Son..." (John 3:16). He did not so love that he told them they were going to Hell. He did not so love the world that he told them what was required. He GAVE them GOD in FLESH. If we love the lost, we must also give them God in flesh.

I think I am seeing a small piece of a vision that is far greater than I realized. I fear it is greater than I can contain. If we can minister to the felt need of the seeker, they will be converted. How can it be otherwise? But if we try to convert (something we cannot do anyway) and fail to minister, we fail not only to minister, but we fail to convert as well. Simply having church from house-to-house will not cause anyone to be saved. MINISTERING from house-to-house is the New Testament Church! I’m sure you’ve told me that, but somehow it just came to me clearly.

(contuned...)

nytxn1971
03-13-2003, 03:50 PM
I am more excited by what I see than I have ever been. I am not down, but I feel alive in the Spirit of God and closer to His will than ever before. I have a clearer direction than I ever thought was possible. But I do realize I have much to do, far to go, and many, many changes yet before me, yet God is already working among us. Let me share an experience.

The most awesome thing happened tonight. I began sharing this with a couple I have known since my bad days, and they were blown away. They began crying over pizza, people left the restaurant looking at us like we were freaks, but God moved. This couple is starving for this vision! They have prayed that God would show them someone with this vision. They said they were sure they were not ready for judgment, but had no idea each other felt this way. They could never bring themselves to discuss it. Oh, I cannot say it in words, but God moved. They begged for more while the waiters closed the restaurant around us. We spoke in the parking lot. God moved. Needs–a hunger that has pained for years–decades, began to be fed.

I FORGOT TO TELL THEM THEY WERE GOING TO HELL! I also forgot to tell them that they had to speak in tongues to be saved. I just fed a gnawing hunger. I just showed them a bigger picture of the God they want to love and hope they know and desperately desire to be right with at the end of this life. They cried, they rejoiced, they begged for more. I think I ministered to them. They would not let me leave until I promised we could continue this discussion. They MADE me schedule a time to be with them. They did NOT go away sad. They did NOT get angry. They left rejoicing like a hungry man after a satisfying meal. They will need to eat again. Please pray that I can again feed them.

Help me see the full picture. I see more vision from God than I have ever seen, but mostly, I realize I see through the glass darkly. What is strikingly obvious comes to me as a cloaked mystery, hidden from my eyes for these many years. Please pray for my vision, and give me some more of yours. I don’t want your 2¢ worth, I want a Pair Of Dimes, please!

End of letter.

As you can see, I began to realize that night that reaching the lost involves loving the lost. We cannot be satisfied to preach the Gospel, though that must be done. We must also MINISTER the Gospel to them. That means we must minister to the "felt need" of the individual.

Felt Need

Most needs can be addressed by a person turning from sin, turning to Jesus Christ, taking His name in baptism, and being filled with His Spirit. However, most people don’t see that. And telling them that they "just need to get right with God" will sound just like everyone else who tried to preach at them.

To reach these people, we must minister to that need where THEY feel it. If they are sick, we must heal the sick. If they are brokenhearted, we must heal them. If they are captive, we must preach deliverance. If they are bruised, we must set them at liberty. After we have done this, we too, can close the book and sit down. They will demand of us our doctrine, after we have ministered to the need. It was after Jesus Christ fulfilled this passage in the temple that Nicodemus came in the night.

When Jesus Christ has been brought into their lives at the point of their felt need, they will allow Jesus Christ in their life at other points of need as well. But until they have felt His MINISTRY at the point of their PAIN, they will remain closed to His Gospel.

Do I Have The Vision?

One clue that you are seeing the vision is that you will view the lost differently. They are no longer godless heathens who need to be set straight. They are wounded travelers in a sinful world, and they need deliverance. Sinners are no longer the problem that confronts us, but they are now the opportunity that awaits us.

When church leaves the four walls of the sanctuary, it enters a world of wounded and hurting sinners. It is beautiful to see these sinners become seekers. It is wonderful to see these seekers become receivers.

My prayer is that my confessions from this article can help you develop an eye to see the vision of God.
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http://housetohousechurches.org/vision.htm

*Pastor's name and church name removed to protect the innocent... and not so innocent*

jbenjesus
03-13-2003, 04:19 PM
Bro. what is your name? I like to address you by name nytxn1971. BTW, does that stand for new york texan born in 1971?

I can identify with your vision. I teach in a home care group that meets in my home. Over the year + that I have been doing this, much foundation had been laid in regards to doctrine. And doctrine is good, but the effective change that we desire to see in listener's has not come by knowledge of doctrine, but the spoken word of the Lord. The rhema if you will.

Much of our doctrine can be rhema, so I'm not putting down the written word, but life change comes through revelation I believe. Mostly revelation with conviction.

Not only has the home group brought us closer as a "family unit", but it has allowed us to carry burdens physical and spiritual with them. It has allowed them to see the love of Christ through our sacrifice. It is not easy having a wife and three kids and having this care group. It is a tremendous sacrifice that they see, recognize, realize that we are doing this for their benefit and maturity. They see His love for them.

It's also important to realize that after we come into the kingdom our obligation is to sacrifice our lives that He would been seen and heard through us.

Yes, we need to study. We need to pray. We need to praise.

And for many of us, study comes easy because can get into the written word, something we can see and feel (I'm guilty).

We can easily get into praise because we can sing and exalt Him with songs known by memory (I'm guilty).

But prayer is so much more difficult to get into. It's worship, and worship comes through brokeness and transparency before Jesus. It's humility.

JL Groce has a small teaching on the old GNC that really summed it up well.

We find it hard to be broken before Him and I believe that the less broken and humble we are before the Lord, the less effective we will be in ministering.

True ministry is hearing the voice of God and responding with obedience. True ministry is being led by the Spirit to fulfill His purpose and plan in the needs of others.

That will always take great personal sacrifice.

Personal sacrifice is essential to effective Spirit led ministry. Relying on knowing the truth (doctrine) does not lead to being able to effectively minister the truth. That's why seeking His presence is so vital to the effectiveness of your ministry, whether your a pastor, a deacon, or just born-again a week ago.

Seeking to be yielded and led by the Spirit is often overlooked for study and great praise sessions.

We really need prayer/worship to be active in our personal lives to be effective for the kingdom.

Thank you for sharing Ron. I just saw your name on the last post.

Let us minister to the needs of others.

nytxn1971
03-13-2003, 04:27 PM
J, let me first start out by saying my name is Ron. It's on my signature, but I just made it bold so it's easier to see. Second, I wish I wrote that awesome article, but it was written by a friend's pastor.

I agaree with you, J.
Ministry is "To attend to the wants and needs of others", according to dictionary.com.

There are those in our ranks what would still hang on to the judgemental and condemning mindsets of believing ministry means to beat people into submission, or throwing scriptures at people in a mean-spirited way, but I'm thankful that there are those who realize the error of that way of thinking. It's carnal and not Christ-like.

Thanks!

ThirdGeneration
03-13-2003, 09:50 PM
I love what you guys are saying and I could not agree more.....

pastorb
03-13-2003, 10:09 PM
Bro Ron,

That is such a great site, I really loved it

Sandy
03-14-2003, 01:17 PM
Bro. Ron,

What a tremendous Word you shared on here that we all should read and see, because it is the truth.

It is love that draws others to Christ, and nothing else. And the person in the world has to see that love in the natural first.

nytxn1971
03-14-2003, 01:20 PM
Amen, Sandy.

I was very moved by that article, because it matches my heart. I wanted to share it with others. I'm glad y'all enjoyed it.

Feels good to bless others.
:)

Jim
03-14-2003, 10:48 PM
What is a Home Friendship Group?

A group of 6 to 12 adults (plus children) meeting together
on a regular basis in private homes under the direction of
trained and accountable leadership.


Aquila and Priscilla greet you heartily in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.
1 Corinthians 16:19

And they continued steadfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, in the breaking of bread, and in prayers.
Acts 2:42

Whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification.
1 Corinthians 14:26

Rejoice with those who rejoice, and weep with those who weep.
Romans 12:15

Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.
James 5:16


Meeting Guidelines:

1. The meeting belongs to each of us. We may all share and participate in every part of the meeting.

2. When we are sharing with the group, we will stick to the point, remembering that other people also want to share.

3. We will refrain from talking about things that are unrelated to the subject being discussed.

4. We will keep personal matters shared in the meeting in strictest confidence.

5. We will be sensitive to the spiritual maturity of each person in attendance and do our best not to be needlessly offensive.

6. We will be respectful of the property of the family hosting the meeting and will help with clean-up at the end of the meeting.


What is the purpose of this group?

1. THAT EACH MEMBER WOULD GROW IN THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD: This comes through prayer, praise, Bible study, and personal commitment to Jesus Christ.

2. THAT EACH MEMBER WOULD GROW IN THEIR PERSONAL CHRISTIAN CHARACTER: This comes as we yield to the influences of God's Word and Spirit in our hearts and receive instruction and correction from those around us.

3. THAT EACH MEMBER WOULD GROW IN THEIR RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE OTHER MEMBERS: This comes through personal involvement with other group members, learning to forgive trespasses and love them as we do ourselves.

4. THAT EACH MEMBER WOULD IDENTIFY THEIR GIFTS AND FIND THEIR PLACE OF SERVICE IN THE LOCAL BODY OF CHRIST: This comes as we participate in various aspects of the groups on-going ministry and life.

5. THAT THE GROUP WOULD GROW NUMERICALLY AND MULTIPLY INTO ANOTHER GROUP: This comes as we reach out to others in love and invite them attend our group meetings. Before a group can multiply, new leadership must be developed to lead the new group. Once a group has 12 faithful members and sufficient leadership, it can then multiply into a new group.



Four Attributes of Spiritual Wholeness

1. Able to connect emotionally with others.
2. Able to relate to others on an adult-to-adult basis (no one-up or one-down).
3. Able to resolve issues of goodness and badness (everyone has some of each), receiving the good and forgiving and/or separating from the bad.
4. Able to say ‘no' when appropriate and to respect the ‘no' of others. This is what it means to be both free and responsible under Jesus Christ.

That we should no longer be children...but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head; Christ (Ephesians 4:14-15).


Five Steps to Spiritual Growth

1. Admit you have a problem (truth). If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (1 John 1:9).

2. Recognize that you are a contributor to your problem (truth). His own iniquities entrap the wicked man, and he is caught in the cords of his sin (Proverbs 5:22).

3. Honestly desire to change (your will). Lord, all my desire is before You; and my sighing is not hidden from You (Psalms 38:9).

4. Ask God for help (grace). Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need (Hebrews 4:16).

5. Yield yourself to God—that is, do what He's telling you to do (obedience). If you are willing and obedient, you shall eat the good of the land (Isaiah 1:19).


In Communion we are.....

1. REMEMBERING what Jesus did for us on the Cross.

2. CELEBRATING our present participation in His body.

3. ANTICIPATING His coming in power and great glory.

nytxn1971
03-25-2003, 03:27 PM
*bump*

Great post, Jim.

nytxn1971
03-01-2005, 04:28 PM
*Bump*

I'm glad I found this thread... The original post needs to be read by all of us again...

soldout4Jesus
03-02-2005, 03:04 AM
:icon_danc Wohoo!

Praise the Lord, Brother! I'm glad you found it. I was looking for it as well when I was researching about Home friendship groups a few months ago.

nytxn1971
03-02-2005, 08:31 AM
Due to a series of unfortunate (or fortunate, however you choose to look at them) events in this pastor's life, the small group resource site is no longer in existance.

He has been through the wringer with people in his church lying, backstabbing and finally forcing him to resign for his 'out of the box' thinking... members of his own house have turned against him...

...But he counts it all joy for the sake of knowing Christ, and partaking in His suffering... Keep him in prayer...