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Phyllis
07-14-2004, 06:28 AM
The Resolution of Matthew 28:18 and Acts 2:38

In an effort to do that which is pleasing to God in a spirit of love for Him, as we come to the act of water baptism we are faced with a decision about which formula or words we would have spoken over us during the ceremony. Someone giving only casual thought to this, but with a heart perfectly willing to obey God, might just go to their local fellowship, and whatever the preacher says during the ceremony would suffice for them. But as we closely study God's word we find that there is great treasure to be found in paying attention to detail.

Just as an example think of the matter of Noah's attention to detail when considering the specifications given him by God for the construction of the Ark. This vessel would prove to be the salvation of himself, the seven other men and women onboard, and all the animals through which life on earth would continue. If Noah had skipped the addition of the pitch covering of the Ark would it have had a successful journey? There was a specific reason for each specification of the construction of the Ark that God gave to Noah.
The Biblical Method Of Water Baptism

In the Bible's presentation of water baptism as practiced by the Church born or empowered on the Day of Pentecost, we see that upon each occasion when new believers were baptised, they did so "...in the name of Jesus".

Acts 2:38, Acts 8:16, Acts 10:48, Acts 19:5

It is critically important that you read these accounts in the context of the chapters in which they are written. This gives the Holy Spirit opportunity to reveal truth to you, giving you understanding as opposed to mere facts. Please take the necessary time required to do this. And may God bless your reading of His word!
The Question Raised About Matthew 28:19

After determining this fact that the appointed Apostles of Christ baptized new believers in Jesus's name a question comes to the minds of many about today's tradition of Churches baptizing "...in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." They begin to think on the scripture Matthew 28:19 which reads;
Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (KJV)
They begin to see a difficulty in reconciling this scripture with the ones we just saw in the book of Acts, with Acts 2:38 being the precedent setting verse of Scripture of water baptizing "...in the name of Jesus Christ". To add to this question, they are faced with the unfortunate position expressed to them by pastors or other ministers of the gospel who choose to baptize "...in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" who make the error of pitting God's word against itself as they seek Biblical justification for what they are doing.

Such pastors say to those who point out that the Apostle's baptized only "...in the name of Jesus Christ", that Matthew 28:19 is the "correct" method because it was spoken by the Lord Himself. The awful mistake that is committed by pitting God's word against itself, is that it implies the following-
"Matthew 28:19 is the `right' method."
Implication: Acts 2:38 is wrong. This would imply that there is an error in God's word. This would also imply that there is contradiction in God's word.
"The Lord Jesus spoke Matthew 28:19 therefore that method must be right."
Implication: The Apostles, (namely Peter) was in error when he spoke Acts 2:38. That there is a strife or contradiction between the words of Jesus, verses the words of the Apostles.
As we read these implications above we instantly see the error of that thought pattern. It is impossible that God's word could be in error. It is equally impossible that the inspired words of the chosen Apostles of Christ would be in opposition to His own teaching. Why is this an impossibility you ask? The answer is, because of the presence of the Holy Ghost in the writers of the New Testament.
The Word Of God Given By The Holy Spirit Is Perfect

What those who declare Peter's inspired words written in Acts 2:38 to be inferior to those of Christ's in Matthew 28:19 forget, is the awesome event that had just happened to Peter the very day he spoke them! Read again, dear friend from the beginning of Acts chapter two, and see the fulfillment of the promise Christ made just prior to His ascension in Acts chapter one;
Acts 1:8
But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. (KJV)

This power of the Holy Ghost to be witnesses of the Gospel, was Messiah's promise to the disciples as He stood with them atop Mount Olivet just prior to His ascension. And this promise was fulfilled as is recorded at the beginning of Acts chapter two! The Holy Ghost (who is God) descended upon the 120 in the upper room and all were baptized in the power of the Holy Spirit of God, Hallelujah! Understand then that when Peter lifted up his hand and spoke on that day to those assembled before him at Jerusalem, that he was not speaking in his own power -- no! Peter was baptized and overflowing in the power of the Holy Ghost, and it was the words God *Himself had given Peter to speak that day which he uttered.

Also, remember what Jesus taught His disciples earlier when He spoke of the purpose of the soon coming Holy Spirit in their lives upon His return to Heaven-
John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. (KJV)

So you see, it is impossible that there could be contradiction between the words of Christ (Matthew 28:19) and those of Peter (Acts 2:38) because it is by *one Spirit of God that both were given. The same may be said of the Apostle John, whom the Spirit overcame on the Lord's Day (Revelation 1:10) as he wrote the words of the Book of Revelation. The same is true for every writer of the New Testament, and it is impossible that one would be contrary to another as is taught by those who would pit Matthew 28:19 against Acts 2:38.
The Consistancy Of The Gospels

Therefore in seeking an understanding of this deeper meaning of the practice of the Apostles in water baptizing "in the name of Jesus Christ", we begin to look for a greater meaning to be revealed from a comprehensive look at all of God's word surrounding the matter. We realize that Peter, Paul and all the Apostles who baptized were doing so under the direct guidance of the Holy Spirit, and could not have been in error. We see this confirmed many times in the book of Acts, and sealed by this scripture from Colossians;
Colossians 3:17
And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. (KJV)

Taking a close look at Matthew 28:19 we begin to see the treasure and monumental implications of Christ's words. We begin to see His awesome divinity revealed to us, and the awesome nature of One God declared.
Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (KJV)
One of the first things noticed upon a closer look is that the word "name" is singular, not plural. What is that name? Father is not a name, is it? No, it is a position or title of ancestry. Son is not a name, is it? No it is the same relative assignment of position or title. Holy Ghost is not a name is it? No, it is the Spirit of God. Where in scripture then, can we find the absolute and unquestionable name in which we may confidently act by word or deed as taught by Colossians 3:17? We find His name in Acts 4:10 through 12-
Acts 4:10-12
10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. 11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Friend, Jesus is the name. And this is exactly what the Apostle Peter realized as he was baptized in the Holy Ghost in Acts chapter 2, and proclaimed this truth in the instruction he gave concerning water baptism. It came directly from the Spirit of God who spoke through him that day.-
Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized, every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Peter realized that Jesus Christ was "...the Word made flesh" (John 1:14), and that He was very God. Peter knew that Jesus was Emmanuel, or "God with us" (Matthew 1:23). He realized that "...in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily" (Colossians 2:9). Not 1/3- not part- but all the Godhead. This is an awesome, mind boggling truth to comprehend. The theme of the Bible is that there is one God and that the Lord Jesus is "the way" (John 14:6), and that the one God has been revealed to us in Jesus of Nazareth to accomplish our salvation (Acts 4:12).

This unity of the Godhead, is revealed in Matthew 28:19 and it is fulfilled in Acts 2:38. There is nothing contrary between the two but a perfect harmony as that latter fulfills the former. The proper name to be baptised in is that of the Lord Jesus Christ, and I highly recommend this method to you, in honor and love for Him. Make sure you insist on the use of His name in your water baptism ceremony, on that wonderful day when you proclaim your faith to the world by doing so. And God bless you!

God bless
Sister Phyllis

The Riddler
07-17-2004, 10:02 PM
Trinitarians often say they use titles because Jesus said to do it. The best thing to ask them after that is how they pray. If they don't recite the Lord's Prayer, politely ask them why the didn't recite the Lord's Prayer. Is the Lord's Prayer a quote from Jesus? It's easy to disarm them from there. Just as the Lord's Prayer is an outline to follow, Matt. 28:19 is an outline as well. Acts 2:38 is the formula base on the outline shown Matt. 28:19.

DiscipleSteve
07-18-2004, 01:06 AM
Praise the Lord Sis.Phyllis. Ditto, Ditto, Ditto. This is an excellent short Bible Study not only on baptism, but also on the Godhead. Excellent. I Recommend it highly for anyone who hasn't experienced baptism in the Name of the father, son, and holy ghost. :)


Galatians 3:27 "For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ"

hna_diana
07-22-2004, 09:02 PM
A few years back I was working with the drama team leaders in our church. They were preparing a script for a death, burial, and resurrection drama. Somehow, they got stuck on the part between the resurrection and the ascention, and they asked me if I would help brainstorm.

I began to study the gospel accounts. As we have already mentioned here, Jesus instructs the disciples in Matthew 28:19:

Matthew 28
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.


But what I found that was so exciting, is that this account can be found in the other gospels through a slightly different viewpoint. This is how Luke 24 tells it:

Luke 24
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
48 And ye are witnesses of these things.
49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
50 And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them.
51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.

The book of Mark carries this account:

Mark 16
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

Maybe all of you are sooooo familiar with this. But when I compared these passages I was thrilled in my spirit. I have still never yet heard a preacher make this comparison.

The trinitarians want to claim that they are obeying the 'words of Christ,' but they completely ignore the 'words of Christ' regarding repentance and REMISSION OF SINS IN HIS NAME. Furthermore, the gospel account account in Mark gives believing and baptism as an inseparable combination, and speaks of the NAME, but nothing of titles!

God bless all!

Sis. D

hna_diana
07-22-2004, 09:04 PM
We know that there are those out there so stuck in their trinitarian tradition. But any study of history, whether from the encyclopedia, a secular source, or church history, will demonstrate that the original church baptized by complete immersion in water in the name of Jesus, and that the formula was later changed for convenience and for inclusion of polytheists.

Sis. D

Phyllis
08-14-2004, 06:33 AM
A few years back I was working with the drama team leaders in our church. They were preparing a script for a death, burial, and resurrection drama. Somehow, they got stuck on the part between the resurrection and the ascention, and they asked me if I would help brainstorm.

I began to study the gospel accounts. As we have already mentioned here, Jesus instructs the disciples in Matthew 28:19:

Matthew 28
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.


But what I found that was so exciting, is that this account can be found in the other gospels through a slightly different viewpoint. This is how Luke 24 tells it:

Luke 24
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
48 And ye are witnesses of these things.
49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
50 And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them.
51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.

The book of Mark carries this account:

Mark 16
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

Maybe all of you are sooooo familiar with this. But when I compared these passages I was thrilled in my spirit. I have still never yet heard a preacher make this comparison.

The trinitarians want to claim that they are obeying the 'words of Christ,' but they completely ignore the 'words of Christ' regarding repentance and REMISSION OF SINS IN HIS NAME. Furthermore, the gospel account account in Mark gives believing and baptism as an inseparable combination, and speaks of the NAME, but nothing of titles!

God bless all!

Sis. D

AMEN AND AMEN!!! i Agree with you that the trinitarians do ignore the "words of Christ' regarding repentacne and remission of sins in his name. I had not compared these passages that you have mentioned in that light but have read them many times What you have pointed out is so correct and thank you for doing so. I grew up trinitarian and then one day a light came on in my head and heart re Matt 28 :19 and Acts 2;38 on the word name., that it was in singular not plural and that to me meant that we were to be baptized in the name of Jesus. It took a whole for me to see that but the Holy Ghost revealed it to me and thank the Lord that I come to know that truth. Once I grasped that wonderful truth it is so imple to me to understand and now I wonder why others do not see it so easy but it is the enemy blinding their eyes and we need to pray much for their eyes to be opened. Praise the Lord!!

God bless
sister Phyllis

Bro.Sam
08-01-2006, 07:45 PM
What about the method used in some churches which goes like this?

After the person who is to be baptized makes their profession of faith, the one doing the baptizing says, "I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" and as he/she immerses the person in the water, says, "in Jesus' Name."

frenzeus
09-19-2006, 05:58 AM
God is truly great in his word. Matthew 28:16-20 doesn't mean that we have to follow this but instead obey it thru the formula in Acts 2:38. The disciples doesn't understand what Jesus is telling so if we read Luke 24:47 and that remission of sins should be preach in his name. So it is thru the name where our sins will be remitted and that is which Peter declared because Jesus is mentioning the name not Titles. And we cannot find in the bible that the disciples obeyed Matthew 28:19 rather they obeyed it in Acts 2:38, for this is the real formula for salvation, for there are no other name in heaven given except the name of Jesus Acts 4:12. For in Him dwelleth the Godhead bodily (Col.2:9) For if we are baptized into Christ we put on Christ (Gal.3:27) God bless you all thank you for the fellowship, I was so blessed this day.

Bro. efren

Former PK
09-19-2006, 08:50 AM
What about the method used in some churches which goes like this?

After the person who is to be baptized makes their profession of faith, the one doing the baptizing says, "I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" and as he/she immerses the person in the water, says, "in Jesus' Name."


They are what an old friend called a mugwamp. Their mug is on one side of the fence and their wamp is on the other.

They see Jesus Name/Acts 2:38, but can't let go of the Orthodox Trinity. So they attempt to cove all the bases. Not unlike the Athenians who had a statue to "The Unknown God"

luvmyfamily
10-12-2006, 10:58 AM
I am no preacher, I am no pastor; I am just a young woman who came to a major realization last year - and it has changed my life forever. It has even caused division and strife in my own family.

What I realized is this: What Jesus said was "right on", AND what Peter said was "right on". Meaning, what Peter said and everything that the Apostles did was in complete FULFILLMENT of Jesus' Words in Matthew. Just as Jesus' coming and dying was in complete FULFILLMENT of the Old Testament. After realizing this, and doing major study, continuing to this day (mostly to find out why hubby is so stuck between the two), I have learned so much, and feel alienated from my trinity-believing brothers and sisters in Christ. There is MUCH darkness regarding this issue, and baptizing according to Matt.28 has been used according to tradition for SO long that the baptisms in Acts are shrouded into nothingness among most churches. I admit, I NEVER read Acts until I started going to a Pentecostal church...and then it was only the actually event of the Holy Spirit infilling in the upper room. Later, after attending a UPC, I started reading more, and wow!

These past few days, people have come up to me, and called me, and remarked to me, "Wow, you sounded great! Your voice and your praise was really a blessing to me." Meaning, this church I go to (trinity believing, Holy Ghost lacking) and the people there for perhaps the first time got a small dose of blessing from the Holy Ghost, Who used me as His vessel, through singing. And they want more of it. And I want to continue to be God's instrument, to show these people the work of the Holy Ghost in MY life, and what it CAN be in theirs, and maybe, just maybe, turn that church upside-down. But I feel so humble, so meek, so unworthy. They compliment me, and quietly but very happily I say thank you. I am just a young woman, a new singer on a new worship team. My husband blesses with his trumpet. We are only obeying God in our praise. I have big hopes and burdens, but who am I? Here am I, Lord, send me. I am on my knees, humbly asking you to use me to bless the people and show them what Your Word REALLY says. They love you so much, and perhaps, they are finally ready for their congregation to be filled with your Holy Ghost power. It's what they need to go forward, and to truly be blessed with their building of a new facility to reach more people. Here am I Lord, send me.

Mercy1
05-14-2007, 05:16 PM
It should also be noted that Matthew was present on the day of Pentecost when Peter preach that awesome message and we dont see them arguing over contradiction. They understood that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost = Christ Jesus, and that salvation is only in the name.

Good post! I enjoyed reading it (and all the replies)

Sister Phyllis
05-24-2007, 05:21 PM
It should also be noted that Matthew was present on the day of Pentecost when Peter preach that awesome message and we dont see them arguing over contradiction. They understood that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost = Christ Jesus, and that salvation is only in the name.

Good post! I enjoyed reading it (and all the replies)

Amen Mercy so right Praise the Lord!!

sis phyllis