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Alesaggio
07-31-2004, 10:55 AM
One is not a legalist if they believe that Christians ought to live in such a way so as to "Please God." Paul prayed for the Colossians "that they might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work" (Col. 1: 10). Further, Paul instructed the Thessalonians "how they ought to walk and to please God" (I Thess. 4:1) because God had called them "unto holiness" (I Thess. 4:7). For this reason, Paul gave them "commandments" (do's and don'ts or rules and regulations). It was not uncommon for Paul to refer to these standards for holy living as "commandments" (I Thess. 4:2; 1 Cor. 14:37), "ordinances" (I Cor. 11:2; Rom. 13:2), "traditions" (11 Thess. 2:15; 3:6), "rules" (Phil. 3:16-17; Gal. 6:16), and "laws" (Rom. 8:2; Gal. 6:2).

One is not a legalist if, as a Pastor, they expect those who are in their charge to please God. Paul wanted the Philippians to be "blameless and sincere, the sons of God without rebuke" (Phil. 2:15). He wanted them to "obey" and to "work out" their own salvation (the proper execution of the Christian way of life) "with fear and trembling" (Phil. 2:12). The pastor watches over the "souls" of his people and is accountable to God. He wants to do this with "joy and not with grief" (Heb. 13:17).

One is not a legalist if they preach against those things that are clearly identified as sin (I Cor. 6:9-10; Rom. 13:8-10; Gal. 5:19-21; Eph. 4:22-32; 5:3-6) and insist with Paul, "let it not be once named among you as becometh saints" (Eph. 5:3).

One is not a legalist if they believe that God gave every believer many clear Biblical principles so that they can judge the rightness or wrongness of questionable issues of life. I believe that God said such things as: "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him " (I John 2:15); "Be not conformed to the world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind" (Rom. 12:2); "Put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provisions for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof" (Rom. 13:14); "Your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own. For ye are bought with a price: therefore, glorify God in your body and in your spirit which are. God's" (I Cor. 6:19-20); "Whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God" (I Cor. 10:31); "Wherefore, come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing" (11 Cor. 6:17); "Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret" (Eph. 5:11-12); and "Whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report, if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things" (Phil. 4:8), so as to give us a frame of reference in order that we might be able to judge sin in our lives. It is through these and similar Scriptures that the grace of God teaches us that, "Denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present world" (Titus 2:12).

One is not a legalist if they preach so as to warn people against those things which have proven to be hazardous to the Christian's growth, productivity and testimony.

One is not a legalist because, as a pastor, they insist on some rules and regulations for the orderly operation (I Cor. 14:33,40) of the local church, and a quality standard for its leadership to serve as an example to the congregation (Phil. 3:17; 4:9).
God has given specific individuals the authority to legislate (set up rules and regulations, do's and don'ts or standards) for others. For example, God has given parents the responsibility to set up necessary rules for the home (Eph. 6:1-3). God has given Government Officials the responsibility of establishing and enforcing necessary rules for an orderly society (Rom. 13:1-3). The Pastor also, under God, has the awesome responsibility to determine the principles and guidelines by which the church must operate (1 Thess. 5:12; Heb. 13:7,17). God expects these legislated rules to be obeyed unless they conflict with His Word (Acts 5:29).

No one should accuse a church or pastor of being legalistic because, in order to maintain a God-honoring standard, they have taken a stand against certain questionable activities or have established sound standards of operation.

We are not among those who teach that since we are not under the Law but under grace, we have a license to sin. To such a perversion of grace, Paul cries out, "God forbid!" (Rom. 6:1-2; Gal. 5:13).

These same perverters of grace say "remove the do's and don'ts, tear down the standard"; but the problem is not with the standard but in how we approach the standard. If we approach the standard thinking that conformity to it is meritorious in the sight of God to either save us or to make us spiritual, then we are legalists! On the other hand, if we approach the standard because the Holy Ghost conforms us to the image of Christ through His enabling power, this is not legalism, but rather the outworking of the grace provision in our lives.

One is not a legalist because they insist on full compliance to Acts 2:38, and teach that all must obey the full plan of salvation to be saved.

One is a "Grace Preacher" who wants to see an end to the awful worldliness, indifference, loose living, half-heartedness and selfishness which has emptied churches, given Jesus Christ second place and makes evil to triumph. One is a "Grace Preacher" who believes that all believers must meet the Lord Jesus Christ at the Judgment Seat (Col. 3:11-25; 11 Cor. 5: 10; 11 Tim. 4:8) to give an account of themselves.


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John Atkinson
07-31-2004, 10:59 AM
Bravo....................

Jillian
07-31-2004, 11:32 AM
Such a beautful post. I woul like to print this if I may......

God bless you.

BTW Brother John I love your signature line.

BrotherBallard
07-31-2004, 05:23 PM
AMEN and AMEN!!!!!!

So many confuse the term conservative with legalism, they are not the same, they do not even belong in the same sentence together.


One is a "Grace Preacher" who wants to see an end to the awful worldliness, indifference, loose living, half-heartedness and selfishness which has emptied churches, given Jesus Christ second place and makes evil to triumph. One is a "Grace Preacher" who believes that all believers must meet the Lord Jesus Christ at the Judgment Seat (Col. 3:11-25; 11 Cor. 5: 10; 11 Tim. 4:8) to give an account of themselves.


Another Excelent post, Bro. Alessagio!!!

tufluv
07-31-2004, 06:24 PM
AMEN and AMEN!!!!!!

So many confuse the term conservative with legalism, they are not the same, they do not even belong in the same sentence together.


Another Excelent post, Bro. Alessagio!!!
Those who do this...prefer "their own way"...over GOD's way..plain and simple.
Kudos to BroAlessagio..once again, unafraid to proclaim TRUTH...(maybe we're related? :D ) :banana:

PCH
08-02-2004, 10:51 AM
Amen Bro.! - We have truly confused grace and Liberty with some false sense of freedom.

How quickly the word "legalism" is thrown towards those who hold tightly to the Word of GOD and actually expect that Christians should follow it's teachings!
I am sickened by the display of "good works" and "commitment" in most churches today.

Our area is filled with these new contemporary churches. Teachings of "How to Handle Your Money" - "Being a Good Citizen" Are much more common than sermons on the "Holy Ghost", "Baptism", The Blood of Jesus and even - Lord have mercy, something as controversial as Hell or Judgment!




Is hell still not a reality for those without Christ?
Is the Holy Ghost no longer the seal of GOD?
Is Homosexuality no longer an abomination?


We are not legalistic because we see GOD'S word as the final authority.

We are not too extreme because we expect worship service to have .....worship.



The bible speaks of the remnant church -
Let us be certain to be in the remnant -
let us be certain to be those who follow GOD and not trends -
Let us be certain that we who follow his commands are children of love and not legalism
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

mbrugh
08-02-2004, 05:58 PM
Amen, Amen, and Amen!

:spin: :banana: :icon_danc

tufluv
08-02-2004, 06:21 PM
...A so-called "legalist"(?) is NOT:
One who compromises with GOD's Word = TRUTH, but loves TRUTH! :yeah:
ONe who whines.."why just "women".. what about "men"??? :grumble:
ONe whom is evil..but seeks only good in obeying GOD's Word..turning away from the worldly 'fad doctrine' of calling evil good, and good evil. :eek:
One whom should be avoided, but instead embraced that perchance some of this godly spirit might rub off!! :D

...and the list goes on and on..and on and on..to INFINITY and beyond!!

Deonna
08-03-2004, 05:38 PM
WONDERFUL post!!! Thank you for posting this! :banana:

jhlent
08-04-2004, 08:47 PM
One is not a legalist if they believe that Christians ought to live in such a way so as to "Please God." Paul prayed for the Colossians "that they might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work" (Col. 1: 10). Further, Paul instructed the Thessalonians "how they ought to walk and to please God" (I Thess. 4:1) because God had called them "unto holiness" (I Thess. 4:7). For this reason, Paul gave them "commandments" (do's and don'ts or rules and regulations). It was not uncommon for Paul to refer to these standards for holy living as "commandments" (I Thess. 4:2; 1 Cor. 14:37), "ordinances" (I Cor. 11:2; Rom. 13:2), "traditions" (11 Thess. 2:15; 3:6), "rules" (Phil. 3:16-17; Gal. 6:16), and "laws" (Rom. 8:2; Gal. 6:2).

One is not a legalist if, as a Pastor, they expect those who are in their charge to please God. Paul wanted the Philippians to be "blameless and sincere, the sons of God without rebuke" (Phil. 2:15). He wanted them to "obey" and to "work out" their own salvation (the proper execution of the Christian way of life) "with fear and trembling" (Phil. 2:12). The pastor watches over the "souls" of his people and is accountable to God. He wants to do this with "joy and not with grief" (Heb. 13:17).

One is not a legalist if they preach against those things that are clearly identified as sin (I Cor. 6:9-10; Rom. 13:8-10; Gal. 5:19-21; Eph. 4:22-32; 5:3-6) and insist with Paul, "let it not be once named among you as becometh saints" (Eph. 5:3).

One is not a legalist if they believe that God gave every believer many clear Biblical principles so that they can judge the rightness or wrongness of questionable issues of life. I believe that God said such things as: "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him " (I John 2:15); "Be not conformed to the world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind" (Rom. 12:2); "Put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provisions for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof" (Rom. 13:14); "Your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own. For ye are bought with a price: therefore, glorify God in your body and in your spirit which are. God's" (I Cor. 6:19-20); "Whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God" (I Cor. 10:31); "Wherefore, come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing" (11 Cor. 6:17); "Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret" (Eph. 5:11-12); and "Whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report, if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things" (Phil. 4:8), so as to give us a frame of reference in order that we might be able to judge sin in our lives. It is through these and similar Scriptures that the grace of God teaches us that, "Denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present world" (Titus 2:12).

One is not a legalist if they preach so as to warn people against those things which have proven to be hazardous to the Christian's growth, productivity and testimony.

One is not a legalist because, as a pastor, they insist on some rules and regulations for the orderly operation (I Cor. 14:33,40) of the local church, and a quality standard for its leadership to serve as an example to the congregation (Phil. 3:17; 4:9).
God has given specific individuals the authority to legislate (set up rules and regulations, do's and don'ts or standards) for others. For example, God has given parents the responsibility to set up necessary rules for the home (Eph. 6:1-3). God has given Government Officials the responsibility of establishing and enforcing necessary rules for an orderly society (Rom. 13:1-3). The Pastor also, under God, has the awesome responsibility to determine the principles and guidelines by which the church must operate (1 Thess. 5:12; Heb. 13:7,17). God expects these legislated rules to be obeyed unless they conflict with His Word (Acts 5:29).

No one should accuse a church or pastor of being legalistic because, in order to maintain a God-honoring standard, they have taken a stand against certain questionable activities or have established sound standards of operation.

We are not among those who teach that since we are not under the Law but under grace, we have a license to sin. To such a perversion of grace, Paul cries out, "God forbid!" (Rom. 6:1-2; Gal. 5:13).

These same perverters of grace say "remove the do's and don'ts, tear down the standard"; but the problem is not with the standard but in how we approach the standard. If we approach the standard thinking that conformity to it is meritorious in the sight of God to either save us or to make us spiritual, then we are legalists! On the other hand, if we approach the standard because the Holy Ghost conforms us to the image of Christ through His enabling power, this is not legalism, but rather the outworking of the grace provision in our lives.

One is not a legalist because they insist on full compliance to Acts 2:38, and teach that all must obey the full plan of salvation to be saved.

One is a "Grace Preacher" who wants to see an end to the awful worldliness, indifference, loose living, half-heartedness and selfishness which has emptied churches, given Jesus Christ second place and makes evil to triumph. One is a "Grace Preacher" who believes that all believers must meet the Lord Jesus Christ at the Judgment Seat (Col. 3:11-25; 11 Cor. 5: 10; 11 Tim. 4:8) to give an account of themselves.


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WOW - Another one to Print out and put up into the Book - to pass around to others..........

I just love printing some of these and handing them out........

NeverMore~
08-05-2004, 01:46 PM
The Difference Between Legal and Gospel Mortification

http://www.puritansermons.com/erskine/erskine4.htm

by Ralph Erskine


1. Gospel and legal mortification differ in their principles from which they proceed. Gospel mortification is from gospel principles, viz. the Spirit of God [Rom. 8. 13], 'If ye through the Spirit mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live'; Faith in Christ [Acts 15. 9], 'Purifying their hearts by faith'; The love of Christ constraining [2 Cor. 5. 14], 'The love of Christ constraineth us.' But legal mortification is from legal principles such as, from the applause and praise of men, as in the Pharisees; from pride of self-righteousness, as in Paul before his conversion; from the fear of hell; from a natural conscience; from the example of others; from some common motions of the Spirit; and many times from the power of sin itself, while one sin is set up to wrestle with another, as when sensuality and self-righteousness wrestle with one another. The man, perhaps, will not drink and swear. Why? Because he is setting up and establishing a righteousness of his own, whereby to obtain the favour of God here is but one sin wrestling with another.

2. They differ in their weapons with which they fight against sin. The gospel believer fights with grace's weapons, namely, the blood of Christ, the word of God, the promises of the covenant, and the virtue of Christ's death and cross [Gal. 6. 14] 'God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of the Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [or, as it may be read, 'whereby,' viz. by the cross of Christ,] the world is crucified to me, and I to the world.' But now the man under the law fights against sin by the promises and threatenings of the law; by its promises, saying, I will obtain life; and win to heaven, I hope, if I do so and so; by its threatenings, saying, I will go to hell and be damned, if I do not so and so. Sometimes he fights with the weapons of his own vows and resolutions, which are his strong tower, to which he runs and thinks himself safe.

3. They differ in the object of their mortification. They both, indeed, seek to mortify sin, but the legalist's quarrel is more especially with the sins of his conversation, whereas the true believer should desire to fight as the Syrians got orders, that is, neither against great nor small, so much as against the King himself, even against original corruption. A body of sin and death troubles him more than any other sin in the world; 'O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from this body of death?' [Rom. 7. 24]. His great exercise is to have the seed of the woman to bruise this head of the serpent.

4. They differ in the reasons of the contest. The believer, whom grace teaches to deny all ungodliness, he fights against sin because it dishonours God, opposes Christ, grieves the Spirit, and separates between his Lord and him; but the legalist fights against sin, because it breaks his peace, and troubles his conscience, and hurts him, by bringing wrath and judgment on him. As children will not play in the dust, not because it sullies their clothes, but flies into their eyes, and hurts them, so the legalist will not meddle with sin, not because it sullies the perfections of God, and defiles their souls, but only because it hurts them. I deny not, but there is too much of this legal temper even amongst the godly.

5. They differ in their motives and ends. The believer will not serve sin, because he is alive to God, and dead to sin [Rom. 6. 6]. The legalist forsakes sin, not because he is alive, but that he may live. The believer mortifies sin, because God loves him; but the legalist, that God may love him. The believer mortifies, because God is pacified towards him; the legalist mortifies, that he may pacify God by his mortification. He may go a great length, but it is still that he may have whereof to glory, making his own doing all the foundation of his hope and comfort.

6. They differ in the nature of their mortification. The legalist does not oppose sin violently, seeking the utter destruction of it. If he can get sin put down, he does not seek it to be thrust out; but the believer, having a nature and principle contrary to sin, he seeks not only to have it weakened, but extirpated. The quarrel is irreconcileable; no terms of accommodation or agreement; no league with sin is allowed, as it is with hypocrites.

7. They differ in the extent of the warfare, not only objectively, the believer hating every false way; but also subjectively, all the faculties of the believer's soul, the whole regenerate part being against sin. It is not so with the hypocrite or legalist; for as he spares some sin or other, so his opposition to sin is only seated in his conscience; his light and conscience oppose such a thing, while his heart approves of it. There is an extent also as to time; the legalist's opposition to sin is of a short duration, but in the believer it is to the end; grace and corruption still opposing one another.

8. They differ in the success. There is no believer, but as he fights against sin, so first or last he prevails, though not always to his discerning; and though he lose many battles, yet he gains the war. But the legalist, for all the work he makes, yet he never truly comes speed; though he cut off some actual sin, yet the corrupt nature is never changed; he never gets a new heart; the iron sinew in his neck, which opposes God, is never broken; and when he gets one sin mortified, sometimes another and more dangerous sin lifts up the head. Hence all the sins and pollutions that ever the Pharisees forsook, and all the good duties that ever they performed, made them but more proud, and strengthened their unbelieving prejudices against Christ, which was the greater and more dangerous sin.

Thus you may see the difference between legal and gospel mortification, and try yourselves thereby.