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Xerf
04-30-2003, 02:07 PM
Okay, so I’m a cut-up, a joker, a nonsense propagator, a nuisance, and perhaps a few other aptly named things! But one thing I do know is that one of the missing doctrines among us is – JOY! The power of joy cannot be over emphasized! I am not speaking of pumping up one’s self with false chanting but of a true spiritual gift.

I hear, and read, about Greek genders, and debates that range from Ability to Zeus and seldom do we hear that attitude determines altitude. All doctrinal studies and teachings are vital and necessary, however, for them to become truly Christian energized they must be utilized through a Christian attitude. This covers everything from holiness to outreach. We seem to have many that possess far more doctrine than they possess the essence of the fruit of the Spirit.

How do we sing life’s song? When a composer writes a piece of music there are various musical markings composers use to tell conductors and performers how they want their music played and sung. For example, "adagio" means slow; "allegro" means "fast/cheerful." Then there is "con brio." That means, "with vivacity/spirited."

Can you imagine someone with a perpetually long face trying to tell someone the “Good News?”

“What’s so good about it? The prospect of being as cheerful and excited as you? No thanks!”

Joy can be defined as: "Inner happiness, which is not dependent on outward circumstances." The O.T. word "simchah" means "gladness of heart," the NT word, "chara" means "inner delight."

LIFE HAS A WAY OF STEALING OUR JOY!
I am told the average baby is born with his hands opened and outstretched, at death the average adult has his hands closed in a fist? Why? What has happened in life that man closes his hands in a fist?

A recent study shows that the average child laughs over 400 times a day out loud. The study suggest, starting at 12, there is a decline in how many times one laughs a day. By adulthood the average American laughs on the average of 15 times a day? I ponder, WHY? Why do we lose our laugh? What happens from 400 to 15? Does a person quit laughing because they get old? Or does a person get old because they quit laughing?

Show me what makes you laugh or cry, and I will be able to tell you something about your character.

Strict rules and excessive punishment will not make better homes. Happy laughter and happy voices will do.

Acts 20:24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I MIGHT FINISH MY COURSE WITH JOY, AND THE MINISTRY, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the Gospel of the grace of God. The fruit of the Spirit is LOVE, JOY, peace ... Gal. 5:22. We hear so much today about the Gifts of the Spirit, but the priority should be put on the fruit of the Spirit. Love is the first, but JOY follows a close second.

No ministry, no family can exist on a "DO I HAVE TO ... MENTALITY!" Love and JOY must be our motivation. Psa. 100:2 Serve the Lord with GLADNESS: come before His Presence with singing. Our approach to the Throne of God will be limited until we quit letting our emotions play games with our JOY and laughter.

Ne 8:10 Then he said unto them, Go your way, eat the fat, and drink the sweet, and send portions unto them for whom nothing is prepared: for [this] day [is] holy unto our Lord: neither be ye sorry; for the joy of the LORD is your strength.

One of the saddest things in the body of Christ today is the anemic spiritual lives of many of Gods people. We find in the scriptures that the joy of the Lord is our strength. And yet we find so many within the church who are living anemic lives, (There is no joy in their lives. They have no song, no spring in their step, no enthusiasm, no anticipation of better things. ( Can you be saved from sin and yet have no Joy?)

Psalms 89:15 – 17, “Blessed is the people that know the joyful sound: They walk, O Jehovah, in the light of thy countenance. In thy name do they rejoice all the day; And in thy righteousness are they exalted. For thou art the glory of their strength; And in thy favor our horn shall be exalted”

Do you know the “joyful sound?”



:)

Webmaster
04-30-2003, 02:14 PM
XERF,

I though about adding some scripture to echo your post......but there is no reason to! You have done a fine job talking about JOY! All I can add is....WOW! I am impressed!

Bro.Steingass
04-30-2003, 02:17 PM
Psa 5:11 But let all those that put their trust in thee rejoice: let them ever shout for joy, because thou defendest them: let them also that love thy name be joyful in thee.

buncha cranky old, bible thumpin, fuddy duddies, you outta be ashamed of yourselves. Amish people always smile and are friendly.

survivor4christ
04-30-2003, 02:19 PM
Wow!

I second, third your post!

The one thing I can honestly say that has kept me from losing my mind in the midst of fiery trials was my ability to laugh, to sing and have a good time!

I do not show my funny/silly bone side here at the GNC too often or recently b/c I want to be taken seriously. But I can be quite a silly willy, just ask my kids!

The ability to enjoy life, even if it throws rotten eggs and spoiled onions at you, is a powerful witness to the world about the joy of the Lord. ON my last job, many thought I had lost my mind or on drugs or something b/c they knew of a few of the things I was dealing with, yet I still came in there with a song on my lips and in my heart, with hope and confidence that everything will work out fine.

But the joy of the Lord is indeed my strength!

Thanks, a lot, brother!
Love, Sis. Wenona

bishop1
04-30-2003, 02:22 PM
When most people see someone
seeking the Holy Ghost and then
they begin to speak in tongues,
People will start rejoicing and say
"You've Got It".

BUT -

WAIT -

and then you will begin to See
The JOY Of The LORD
All Over Their Faces !

When They Are Filled To OVERFLOWING
and With The JOY Of The LORD -
They Will Continue In The APOSTLES Doctrine !

foreverblessed
04-30-2003, 02:24 PM
Good post Xerf, you are sooo right!! :D


God convicted me just a few years ago about my living with no Joy in my life. I was often so weighed down with life, I couldn't find a reason to smile.

I was depressed far to much to be a Christian. Life for the 10 years prior had been a big disapointment to me. I was convicted of what was my response to situations and people. True I had been handed lemons in life, but it was up to me to make Lemonade.

When I began looking at things differently and trusting God to see me through things, my outlook began to change.

For me my lack of Joy was my trying to control situations, instead of letting God have control of my life.

I can't say that I don't have times that I fail in this area. Sometimes I forget, and try to pick up problems and situations and carry them. I just find if I lay them down at the altar, and worship God I find Joy.

Xerf
04-30-2003, 03:56 PM
We all know, of course, there is a time and place for all things -- but that never means that JOY is out of place anywhere -- it means how it conducts itself -- JOY can take on many manifestations -- even in sorrow JOY is real. Paul spoke of "taking joy" in all his trials -- JOY is a spiritual product and therefore is manifested as the Spirit wills.

JOY plumbs the depths of the spiritual man's soul and brings up the smile of God!

"And there was great joy in that city!

ThirdGeneration
04-30-2003, 04:42 PM
Xerf- Beautiful post.

BroDane
04-30-2003, 05:43 PM
Jesus
Others
Yourself

Uhhh Xerf, what exactly are u trying to say? :yeah:

Yes, It was very Good..its about time somebody else got ahold of this Joy I have!!!!

I Thought I was the only one..:D

servant
04-30-2003, 09:46 PM
Xerf,
I wish I had started this thread.

Serv :)

Xerf
04-30-2003, 10:12 PM
I thought ya did?? Didn't ya??

Well.......I couldn't have said it better meself!


:rolleyes:

tufluv
04-30-2003, 10:22 PM
Bro.Dane:
I Thought I was the only one..

AHEM!! And how would you come to that conclusion? There are a few others, like myself, that express joy here, but, has no one noticed the, oh, 20 times or so I have made mention of the fact that NOONE else here hardly EVER praises the LORD!!and still no one gets the hint! Tis more fun, I guesss, to keep pressing on points till infinity, and the KINGDOM of GOD is none the better for it! :eek:

JOY causes me to praise HIM, joy of being delivered from that H word, and many other vices, and thoughts, attitudes, and HE'S still not DONE!! Imagine that!

XERF: you have been an instrument of humor, true, but w/o joy being in a person, that laughter just fades away, and sour faces return.
True joy is everlasting!

nightwatchman
04-30-2003, 10:37 PM
.............JESUS.............JOY TO THE WORLD

Bro.Steingass
05-02-2003, 12:45 PM
3Jo 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.

CRNewton
05-02-2003, 12:54 PM
"With joy shall ye draw waters from the wells of salvation"

Faithchild
05-02-2003, 04:10 PM
Btw, XERF, Doubtful Thomas quoted your Billy Sunday quote on FaithchildForum.Com this month. But he didn't give you proper credit! I think I'll make him go listen to Bill preach awhile. That should teach him!

Xerf
05-02-2003, 04:25 PM
FC, here is my very favorite Billy Sunday quote:

"Listen, I'm against sin. I'll kick it as long as I've got a foot. I'll fight it as long as I've got a fist. I'll butt it as long as I've got a head. And I'll bit it as long as I've got a tooth and when I'm old, fistless, footless and toothless I'll gum it till I go home to glory and it goes home to perdition."


Maybe your doubting Thomas can use that!


:rolleyes:

Faithchild
05-02-2003, 10:01 PM
Consider it done! I'll make sure that XERF gets the credit!

Apostolic Kitty
05-03-2003, 10:57 PM
Amen on joy, Xerf! I can tell you that once the Lord filled me with His spirit He turned my frown upside down...

...and I have wondered why more HG filled people go around looking like they spent all day eating Lemon Drops!! :D

searching
05-03-2003, 11:08 PM
Looking at that kitty cat staring at me is stirring up angry feelings. At this moment, there is a cat meowing endlessly outside my living room window, and it's driving me nuts, which isn't a hard thing to do, nor is it a long drive. I don't like being mean to animals or anything, but I am severely allergic to cats. Can anyone give me advice on what to do or something so I can get rid of...oh, nevermind. My husband just took care of it. I don't think it will be back for a while.

Me...

apforthelord
05-04-2003, 01:01 AM
I will find you Xerf!!!!

You cannot hide!!!!

I will find your true idenity!!!!

Or i will not sleep!!!

apforthelord
05-04-2003, 01:02 AM
LoL
Please noone take me serious.