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Hnovilla
05-12-2003, 05:25 PM
His Name is Jesus!
Can you defend and/or critique preterism, futurism, or partial preterism in fifty words or less...in common Christian terminology? If not, it's probably not worth knowing.
Brother Villa
Adoniyah
05-13-2003, 09:32 PM
sez who?
Hnovilla
05-14-2003, 04:25 AM
His Name Is Jesus!
My thinking is this: if Peter, not a learned man, could summarize the Gospel in tweny-five words or less, how much better the learned men!
Personally, I believe that the Lord came back on the Day of Pentecost to abide in His Church; and will come again FOR us.
Brother Villa
ps: that was less than fifty words.
Adoniyah
05-14-2003, 11:42 PM
When Jesus went away, did he go away in person or in Spirit?
When he came at Pentecost, did he come in person or in Spirit?
Shall Jesus return again in Person?
Hnovilla
05-15-2003, 01:32 AM
His Name is Jesus!
Beloved, why all the questions you know the answers to?
Brother Villa
Adoniyah
05-15-2003, 07:55 AM
Bro Villa:
I ask those questions because there are those that make a great issue over the descent of the Spirit on the Day of Pentecost as being the prophesied return of the Lord.
While it is true that the Spirit of Jesus came at Pentecost, that is not the whole story concerning the "coming of the Lord." Do you not agree that Jesus has not returned in person as of this date?
I am sure that you would agree. :)
Actually, after reading your post again, I see that you do agree. So, what it amounts to is...I ought to go back and delete my last post. :) Notice the time of the post, 11:42 pm. I should have had my old worn out carcass in bed.
Hnovilla
05-15-2003, 12:54 PM
His Name is Jesus!
Beloved Church, I began this post because I am IGNORANT of the terminology in question. But I must reiterate (personally): if it cannot be explained in plain, Christian terminology or in fifty words or less, it is probably not worth considering.
This is the scripture that got MY attention:
Brother Villa"...and they persevered in the apostles' doctrine..." That was twenty-one years ago, and that is what the Lord used to draw me to Him. Please note that it is less than fifty words.
If we cannot get anyone's attention with less than fifty words...
Brother Villa
truemessianic
05-17-2003, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Hnovilla
His Name is Jesus!
Can you defend and/or critique preterism, futurism, or partial preterism in fifty words or less...in common Christian terminology? If not, it's probably not worth knowing.
Brother Villa
OK. Here I go...
Partial Preterism is the belief that Jesus was speaking to the very generation He was, in reference to Bible prophecy. He spoke of those things prophecied in that generation, and now we are to look only for The Rapture, The Ressurection, and the Final Judgment.
45 words.. not too bad.
Hnovilla
05-17-2003, 11:26 PM
His Name is Jesus!
True: thank you. And that was not too B-A-D...
Brother Villa
Jerry Moon
05-19-2003, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Hnovilla
His Name is Jesus!
Can you defend and/or critique preterism, futurism, or partial preterism in fifty words or less...in common Christian terminology? If not, it's probably not worth knowing.
Brother Villa
The whole Bible can be sumed up in five simple words...
"Old Covenant to New Covenant".
Jerry Moon
www.acts2.us
Thelordisone
05-19-2003, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by Hnovilla
His Name Is Jesus!
My thinking is this: if Peter, not a learned man, could summarize the Gospel in tweny-five words or less, how much better the learned men!
Personally, I believe that the Lord came back on the Day of Pentecost to abide in His Church; and will come again FOR us.
Brother Villa
ps: that was less than fifty words.
Amen!!:banana:
Adoniyah
05-19-2003, 09:41 PM
Since I do not believe in the carnal reasoning of neither the pre, mid, posttrib, Historicist, or Preterist or any other natural/canrnal precepts of the Word. Since I believe that the Word of God is spiritual, here is what I believe in 29 words:
"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned."
Therefore why do we insist on carnalizing or binding scriptures to the natural explanation?
secretplace
05-20-2003, 08:05 AM
Brother Villa:
Your profile says you are a preacher...
Are all your messages 50 words or less?
:huh:
Adoniyah
05-20-2003, 08:11 AM
I wish.
More accurately, my listeners would wish. :)
Adoniyah
05-20-2003, 08:18 AM
Here is another attempt to do it in 50 of my own words.
The last Adam and his wife by obedience will restore all things lost by the first Adam and his wife by disobedience.
Got it down to 22 words.
secretplace
05-20-2003, 08:40 AM
Hi:
How about:
GRACE.
Hnovilla
05-20-2003, 02:25 PM
His Name is Jesus!
Secret Place: I think bites of fifty words or less will make our preaching/teaching more understandable. I find that most persons who speak the most, also have the least to say. I would definitely exclude some authors on this forum from that 'rule'.
Adoniyah: As the man said, I resemble that remark.
Brother Villa
Hnovilla
06-06-2003, 01:09 PM
His NAME is Jesus!
Beloved, I still don't know the difference between preterism, futurism, or any of the 'isms'. I guess this is just one of those things I (personally) will remain silent on.
Brother Villa
Adoniyah
06-06-2003, 08:22 PM
Brother Villa,
PTL, brother.
Go to Brother Blume's web site. There is plenty on the subject of Partial Preterism there. I would think that he probably also speaks of the various futurist doctrines also.
ddc101
06-07-2003, 10:15 AM
Bro.Jim Yohe has a neat thing on his site now explaining these differences.lv sis.c
Hnovilla
06-20-2003, 03:02 AM
His NAME is Jesus!
Beloved Sister: I was not going to respond to this thread anymore, and I do feel this will be my last post on tis particular matter. I write this a little belatedly, but out of courtesy to you.
First of all, I want to thank you for trying to steer me to a place I could learn of the "isms'. I was just curious about their meaning. But after careful consideration, I have decided that I can utilize my time better by just reading the words that the KJV uses. That is the version the Lord gave ME, and that is the version I will use to teach and preach.
Church, this is not a post about versions; I wrote, only in passing, that the Lord gave ME the KJV to study from. Everyone else will do as the Lord directs THEM.
Brother Villa
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