Homosexual OR Homosexual?

[Hnovilla]

Can a Homosexual be saved?

"Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves..."

Can the sin of homosexuality be regarded as any other sin? Can a person fall BACK into homosexuality, repent, and serve the Lord again as, say, a thief or a liar?


Brother Villa

[jnix]

Isint there only 1 unforgivable sin?

[Bro.Sam]

Can a Homosexual be saved?

"Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves..."

Can the sin of homosexuality be regarded as any other sin? Can a person fall BACK into homosexuality, repent, and serve the Lord again as, say, a thief or a liar?


Brother Villa

Why not?
If God expects us to forgive 70 times 7 would He not at least meet that or even exceed it?
1 John is written to believers and tells us that if we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us and then goes on to tell us that if we confess/admit our sins then God is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. I don't see a limit on how many times we can come and count on His faithfulness.

[Hnovilla]

His NAME is Jesus!


jinx:
"Isn't there only 1 unforgivable sin?"

Bro.Sam:
:Why not?
If God expects us to forgive 70 times 7...1 John is written to believers..."


Blaspheming the Holy Spirit:
Do the scriptures say that all sins are forgiven EVERYTIME, or that "...a multitude of sins..." are to be forgiven?

Why not??? Why not treat a homosexual who says he is a Christian, like any other backsliding Christian?
Does I John teach that if Brother Villa falls into sin, that I must also forgive the sin of homosexaulity? Is that what you are saying? I would have to say that I must not compare my sin with a "greater" sin: that would never justify my sin: is that what you meant?
Or are you acknowledging homosexuality as a "common" sin?


Brother Villa

[ddc101]

Brother villa
I have not seen you post in some time.Welcome back.
Continue.I am reading what you post.lv sis.c

[BOBJAMES]

Can a Homosexual be saved?

"Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves..."

Can the sin of homosexuality be regarded as any other sin? Can a person fall BACK into homosexuality, repent, and serve the Lord again as, say, a thief or a liar?


Brother Villa

But that would be dangerous ground, the same for a adulterer, fornicator, thief, rapist, murderer.

BOB JAMES

[ddc101]

While we are discussing this subject what do you guys take
as God gave them over to it? I know what I think but am wondering your
takes on it.lv sis.c

[drummerboy_dave]

Sure, a homosexual can be saved. But a person is either one or the other, just like the thief is either saved or a thief and a liar is either saved or liar.

[Hnovilla]

His NAME is Jesus!


drummerboy_dave:
"Sure, a homosexual can be saved. But a person is either one or the other, just like the thief is either saved or a thief and a liar is either saved or liar."

OK. Now remember that we are discussing the Church. Now if we sin, we "...have an advocate with the Father..." If we confess our sin, "...he is faithful and just to forgive us..." So if I tell a lie, I can repent and the Lord will receive me, right? Or if I steal...? Can that also be said of homosexuality?

Think it out!


Brother Villa

[drummerboy_dave]

Brother Villa, this is my own personal view, and I don't expect you or any one else to share it. I hadn't thought about it much until now, but it's good to think about things once in a while. Thanks for the nudge.


When a person becomes a new creature he or she is no longer what they were before. When a person who used to practice homosexuality becomes saved, they become a child of God, just the same as everyone else. If said person, engages in sex outside of marriage (a homosexual act), he or she becomes a child of God who has fallen into fornication. They then must decide whether they want to be restored to God or remain in sin.

God will accept their repentence, restore them to His body and give them the strength and wisdom to walk in holiness, if they are willing to repent and wholely lean on Him. If they do not repent, they are choosing sin over God and we all no where that decision leads.

[Hnovilla]

His NAME is Jesus!


Can there be "levels" of homosexuality?
For example, does a man reject God and become a homosexual? Can that homosexual then seduce another man to commit homosexual acts with him? Then the second man might reject God also, and seduce someone else...even a child...?

Do BOTH homosexuals have access to repentance and the kingdom of God?


Brother Villa

[tdj]

Also, what about people who have done homosexual acts in the past, but are not actual homoosexuals.

[Hnovilla]

His NAME is Jesus!


Well? Who is forgiven: the homosexual who seduces other men, or the man who is seduced by the homosexual? Or are both to be regarded as EQUALLY sinful?
Or as tdj asked: "what about people who have done homosexual acts in the past, but are not actual homoosexuals."


Brother Villa

[ddc101]

Also, what about people who have done homosexual acts in the past, but are not actual homoosexuals.
They need to repent and then its under the blood.They then need some laying on of hands deliverance and to get a hard core fasting and prayer life.

[Hnovilla]

His NAME is Jesus!


ddc101:
"They need to repent and then its under the blood.They then need some laying on of hands deliverance and to get a hard core fasting and prayer life."

Can a "practicing homosexual" be saved, then, even "...after the first and second admonition..."?

Romans 1:
:24 "Wherefore [U]God also gave them up to uncleanness..."
:26 "For this cause [U]God gave them up to vile affections..."
:28 ...God gave them over to a reprobate mind..."

Does anyone else see the gradual falling away from bad to worse to worst? Could it be the whole man, spirit, body and soul, disintegrating into the very depths of sin? Can this man be saved at any level...or at which level is he lost?


Brother Villa

[drummerboy_dave]

His NAME is Jesus!


Can there be "levels" of homosexuality?
For example, does a man reject God and become a homosexual? Can that homosexual then seduce another man to commit homosexual acts with him? Then the second man might reject God also, and seduce someone else...even a child...?

Do BOTH homosexuals have access to repentance and the kingdom of God?


Brother VillaA person commits a sin, because it is his decision to do so. The fact that someone else entices him is I think, irrellevent. All people have access to repence except those who are too stubborn to yeild to God.

To follow up on my previous post I forgot to say that if a saved person does falls into sin and does not repent, God no longer keeps them as His child.

I fixed it though.

[Bro.Sam]

...
To follow up on my previous post I forgot to say that if a saved person does falls into sin and does not repent, God no longer keeps them as His child.
...
.

Not trying to be argumentative, just wondering, do you believe that after a person is born again he/she ceases to be a child of God if he/she sins? Then can that person become a child of God again by being born again again?

[milady]

Yes,I believe that if a person is a homosexual he or she can be saved.
But,once they give their life to God,they should no longer practice homosexuality.

[drummerboy_dave]

Not trying to be argumentative, just wondering, do you believe that after a person is born again he/she ceases to be a child of God if he/she sins? Then can that person become a child of God again by being born again again?God is our holiness. When we walk with Him we are holy (free of sin). When we step out of Him, we return to our own nature which the bible calls filthy rags at it's best. I believe that any child of God who sins, does so by turning away from God as it were and placing themselves in a position of judgement. God is longsuffering and allows grace if it is sought. But, if a child of God continues to walk in sin instead of with God, then they are moving themselves farther and farther away from God. He will not allow this type of individual to walk in sin and in Him, forever.

I don't know at which point in a person's walk, God decides to turn that person over to sin, but I believe He does this (perhaps on judgement day). You cannot walk with God and be in sin. People try to do so all day long, but they are only fooling themselves.

[Hnovilla]

His NAME is Jesus!


drummerboy_dave:
"I don't know at which point in a person's walk, God decides to turn that person over to sin, but I believe He does this (perhaps on judgement day)..."

Beloved, good post.

We might NOT be able to know "at what point" IN TIME, but we do know that God will give them over "...to a reprobate mind..." Once that happens, there is left no more room for repentance! A "true" homosexual CANNOT be redeemed, even as a person who "...has trodden underfoot the Son of God...there remains no more sacrifice for sin..."

There is a difference between the person/sinner who commits homosexual acts and the homosexual.The one has been seduced by the spirit of homosexuality OR the homosexual; the other has chosen sin as his way of life. Listen:

"...the earth was without form, and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep..." to paraphrase, "humanity ( man formed in a body of dust) was in confusion, was without the knowledge of God, and was about to be in the clutches of sin. It was sin who was about to destroy man, but "...the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters..." God interceded BEFORE sin could grasp man's spirit and utterly destroy him.

As long as sin does not reach our very spirit-being, man has a chance to repent. Sin can enter into a man's mind, and tempt man; and man can even obey sin with his body. But don't let anyone believe that a man can reject God with his spirit and be found innocent. He will find himself a castaway!


Brother Villa

[Donny Cage]

I never have understood why some christians exalt that one sin over all others. Out of any sin they could get angry about, they are passionate about that one.

Some people claiming that we sin everyday, but then go down to a funeral (where a homosexual died), protesting, holding up signs that say, "God hates homos", or "Gays will burn in hell".

Where is the passion, when someone who was a liar that died? Where are the signs? Why isn't anyone picketing when someone who was an adulterer dies? Why isn't anyone protesting, when a fornicator dies? (BTW - I think these hypocrites that protest at these funerals, are dead wrong for what they are doing. Grow some respect for the families that lost a loved one)

What is it about that one sin, that ticks people off so much, that their own sin is okay, but homosexuality is death wrong.

Someone says, "homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God"... well keep going.. neither will fornicators, idoliters, adulterers, effeminate, abusers of themselves with mankind, thieves, covetous, drunkards, revilers, or extortioners.... (1 Corinthians 6:9,10)

The unrighteous, will not inherit the kingdom of God. This includes, but is not limited to homosexuals.

[Former PK]

Also, what about people who have done homosexual acts in the past, but are not actual homoosexuals.

That is a very interesting question. It separates the act from the attitude.

[Donny Cage]

Also, what about people who have done homosexual acts in the past, but are not actual homoosexuals.

The act is the sin.

It's a sin just like lying or fornication or drunkedness or stealing or killing. If they've engaged in these acts, they need to repent (turn away from sin) and ask for forgiveness.

[Bro.Sam]

There is a lot about homosexuality that we don't understand.

Sex between two people of the same gender is wrong.
So is sex with an animal.
So is having sex in your mind with someone other than your spouse.

When we come to Jesus for His mercy, He saves us and we become a new creation (2 Cor. 5:17). Our spirit and His spirit are joined together and become one (1 Cor 6:17). Our old man (or old nature) is dead so we have a public burial (water baptism). However, even though the old man is dead it is still very much alive and we have to "reckon" it dead on a regular basis. This is taught in Romans chapter 6 and Galatians 5:16-26 and other places. We are supposed to yield to the Holy Spirit and not to our old nature. But, most (probably all if we are honest) yield to the old flesh nature once in a while and sin. If we confess that sin then God forgives us and cleanses us. Most (probably all if we are honest) do not live a sinless life. What happens when a child of God sins? Does he/she lose that salvation and position as a child of God? If so, when? or how far along in sin? Oh just how many sins? Or are some sins bigger or more sinful than others?I don't have an answer for this. People who are better than I and smarter than I can't agree on it. The Roman Catholics have "invented" a distinction between "mortal" and "venial" sins and a place called "purgatory" to deal with the question of imperfect people. We OP holiness folks don't have those doctrines. Is a person who yields to his human/sinful nature and commits a homosexual act a bigger sinner or more guilty than a person who yields to his human/sinful nature and has sex with a person of the opposite sex, or a person who yields to his human/sinful nature and commits adultery in his mind (Matthew 5:27-28), or a person who yields to his human/sinful nature and tells a lie, or a person who yields to his human/sinful nature and is covetous, or yields to his human/sinful nature and gossips or sows discord, etc. etc. etc. ???? Some sins may be more repugnant to us than other sins but are there degrees or categories of sin? Our fruit reveals who and what we are but not everyone grows and develops in their walk with God at the same pace.

[truthinfocus]

Definately God can do anything. I was molested as a teenager by a homosexual, which caused many horrific things to come into my life. It drove me to depression and hard core pornography. I know that some times we don't choose what happens to us. And the same as a backslider, doesn't choose what spirits come back to him. There are many homosexuals out there that are not in the situation by choice, but by some horrible incident in their life. But I know that my God delivered me, and he can move in any situation. And just because we received the Holy Ghost, doesn't mean that all the images can't come back to haunt us at times. But thanks to the blood of calvary, that we've been made overcomers.

[Hnovilla]

His NAME is Jesus!


truthinfocus:
"There are many homosexuals out there that are not in the situation by choice, but by some horrible incident in their life. But I know that my God delivered me, and he can move in any situation. "

Thank you, Beloved. You have come the closest to expressing the difference between the HOMOSEXUAL and the homosexual.


Bro.Sam:
"Some sins may be more repugnant to us than other sins but are there degrees or categories of sin?"

Beloved, ALL sin is repugnant to God: but not all sinners are reprobates! There are just some sinners who keep denying the Gospel, and keep Truth from entering their lives. Reprobates do not earnestly seek God, but have had their consciences "...seared with a hot iron..." They are not to be compared to a Christian...for it is repentance in His NAME that makes the difference.


Brother Villa

[Poppy]

This sin seems to be so accepted in many religious organizations. I can imagine that it does not seem like sin to so many people. If someone who practices this behavior goes to church and a religious leader tells them that they are OK and that it is not a sin, then that person may actually believe it. Many times people will believe and trust in a man's words rather than trusting in what the Bible says.

[Onli-one-jehovi]

His NAME is Jesus!


ddc101:
"They need to repent and then its under the blood.They then need some laying on of hands deliverance and to get a hard core fasting and prayer life."

Can a "practicing homosexual" be saved, then, even "...after the first and second admonition..."?

Romans 1:
:24 "Wherefore [U]God also gave them up to uncleanness..."
:26 "For this cause [U]God gave them up to vile affections..."
:28 ...God gave them over to a reprobate mind..."

Does anyone else see the gradual falling away from bad to worse to worst? Could it be the whole man, spirit, body and soul, disintegrating into the very depths of sin? Can this man be saved at any level...or at which level is he lost?


Brother Villa

All men are lost for not believing on the crucified Christ, the Son of God. All men are lost for rejecting the Lamb. Unbelief is the root, rebellion is the branch, and sin is the fruit. All sin.

This man can be saved at any level. Even to the uttermost.

The passages cited in Romans refer primarily to the Christ rejectors. Now, it can and does apply to any saint who falls into unbelief { unbelief in trusting Jesus} and returns to the flesh.

It appears you are attempting to imply homosexuality is beyond redemption, and somehow more reprehensible to God than any other sin. That is not so. There is only one sin which dooms one to hell or causes names blotted out of the Book: that sin is unbelief.

[Inspired-Eyes]

sorry i deleted this , just realized it was in mens thread. i REPOSTED it in womans thread.....sorry about that.

[meagain]

I never have understood why some christians exalt that one sin over all others. Out of any sin they could get angry about, they are passionate about that one.

Some people claiming that we sin everyday, but then go down to a funeral (where a homosexual died), protesting, holding up signs that say, "God hates homos", or "Gays will burn in hell".

Where is the passion, when someone who was a liar that died? Where are the signs? Why isn't anyone picketing when someone who was an adulterer dies? Why isn't anyone protesting, when a fornicator dies? (BTW - I think these hypocrites that protest at these funerals, are dead wrong for what they are doing. Grow some respect for the families that lost a loved one)

What is it about that one sin, that ticks people off so much, that their own sin is okay, but homosexuality is death wrong.

Someone says, "homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God"... well keep going.. neither will fornicators, idoliters, adulterers, effeminate, abusers of themselves with mankind, thieves, covetous, drunkards, revilers, or extortioners.... (1 Corinthians 6:9,10)

The unrighteous, will not inherit the kingdom of God. This includes, but is not limited to homosexuals.

It seems to me from reading the Bible that even God himself categorizes sins. I have noticed that some sins get a special distinction of being called, "abominations". Abomination sins, from what I understand, God classified differently. I asked someone about the difference and they said that abominations were those sins that God hated. But of course, I thought he hated all of them. There are only two sins in the Bible that I have yet to find anyone repenting and being brought back from. The first is treason, the second is homosexuality. Not saying it can't happen, just that I have yet to read about a bibilical case. The Bible is supposed to be our beacon, or guidance system to live by.

[aposreform]

I have known many people that were delivered from homosexuality. I have known people that were delivered from fornication and other sex sins. All will tell you, that they were hell bound, no matter what their sins were. I also believe that people can be turned over to a reprobate mind, no matter what their sins, if they continue and do not repent after they have heard this truth. It just seems that once a person steps over that line to homosexuality, that they seem to want to readily accept it as normal, and that is why there is the warnings that are in the book of Romans.

[livingbygrace]

His NAME is Jesus!


truthinfocus:
"There are many homosexuals out there that are not in the situation by choice, but by some horrible incident in their life. But I know that my God delivered me, and he can move in any situation. "

Thank you, Beloved. You have come the closest to expressing the difference between the HOMOSEXUAL and the homosexual.


Bro.Sam:
"Some sins may be more repugnant to us than other sins but are there degrees or categories of sin?"

Beloved, ALL sin is repugnant to God: but not all sinners are reprobates! There are just some sinners who keep denying the Gospel, and keep Truth from entering their lives. Reprobates do not earnestly seek God, but have had their consciences "...seared with a hot iron..." They are not to be compared to a Christian...for it is repentance in His NAME that makes the difference.


Brother Villa


Dear, Brother Villa -

While serving the U.S. Navy in the San Francisco bay area where I married my wife, I first read and saw in the papers about this plague that was hitting the US. I knew my calling of God was absolute but AIDS and Hospice Ministries wasn't where I thought my journey would take me.

I thought I was called to foreign missions and was assured that my wife felt the same calling. Never in a million years would I thought that my missionary work was here in America with these people stricken with this new plague.

During those times and for over 20 years now I've grieved with those precious children of God who died a long and often brutal death. Many times I would sit for hours as they would reminisce about their life, triumphs and failures, church and family.

What you wrote earlier brother, flamed and stoked the ambers of hatred and an atmosphere, in some circles of our faith, where parents/families felt shamed if they went against their pastors' beliefs and let a reprobate into their home.

The spirit of which you wrote about your angry, vengeful and unforgiving concept of God wasn't promoting the loving, merciful concept of Abba Father, the Almighty God. He chose the relationship with and through Jesus to show us how much He sees us as His children.

Do you know what Abba Father, the Almighty, felt for His children who walked in darkness and despair for years without having the relationship that He wanted to have with them and then for them to ask for forgiveness and come home? Tread lightly and with reverence, brother.

I'll finish this lengthy post with an excerpt from The Signature of Jesus, Brennan Manning, 187:

Jesus said that the foremost sign of discipleship would be our love for one another. "A new commandment I give you: Love one another. As I have love you, so you must love one another. All men will know that you are my disciples if you love one another" (John 13:34-35). His teaching is unequivocal here. We would be known as his followers not because we are chaste, celibate, honest, sober or respectable; not because we are church-going, Bible-toting or Psalm-singing: We would be recognized as disciples primarily by our deep and delicate respect for one another, our cordial love impregnated with reverence for the sacred dimension of the human personality.

In the power of a great affliction the impossible becomes possible. We are freed from the fears that lock us. We know we can't lose because we have nothing to lose.

Blessings to you and your house.

[Daniel Alicea]

Is this a trick question?

[Hnovilla]

His NAME is Jesus!

livingbygrace:
"What you wrote earlier brother, flamed and stoked the ambers of hatred and an atmosphere, in some circles of our faith, where parents/families felt shamed if they went against their pastors' beliefs and let a reprobate into their home.
The spirit of which you wrote about your angry, vengeful and unforgiving concept of God wasn't promoting the loving, merciful concept of Abba Father, the Almighty God. He chose the relationship with and through Jesus to show us how much He sees us as His children.'

Beloved, you feel I "...flamed and stoked the ambers of hatred and an atmosphere, in some circles of our faith...", how? Are there not those who feel that NO homosexual can be saved; while others feel that ANY and ALL homosexuals can be saved? Can you not see that the focus of the question was to cause each group to reexamine their opinion? Had you followed the thread, I am sure you would agree that that was the focus.

Did you read the part quoted in Romans 1:
"Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness...For this cause God gave them up to vile affections...God gave them over to a reprobate mind..."? Who "...gave them over..."]/I]: me, or God? Can you see where the homosexual who DID NOT repent went from bad to worse? Or have you not heard: [I]"...after the second admonition, reject..."? The subject of that particular scripture is NOT Christianity, but the heretic.

The question will NEVER be whether the Lord Jesus can or will forgive: but whether the individual will draw near enough to hear and repent.

Brother Villa

[livingbygrace]

His NAME is Jesus!

livingbygrace:
"What you wrote earlier brother, flamed and stoked the ambers of hatred and an atmosphere, in some circles of our faith, where parents/families felt shamed if they went against their pastors' beliefs and let a reprobate into their home.
The spirit of which you wrote about your angry, vengeful and unforgiving concept of God wasn't promoting the loving, merciful concept of Abba Father, the Almighty God. He chose the relationship with and through Jesus to show us how much He sees us as His children.'

Beloved, you feel I "...flamed and stoked the ambers of hatred and an atmosphere, in some circles of our faith...", how? Are there not those who feel that NO homosexual can be saved; while others feel that ANY and ALL homosexuals can be saved? Can you not see that the focus of the question was to cause each group to reexamine their opinion? Had you followed the thread, I am sure you would agree that that was the focus.

Did you read the part quoted in Romans 1:
"Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness...For this cause God gave them up to vile affections...God gave them over to a reprobate mind..."? Who "...gave them over..."]/I]: me, or God? Can you see where the homosexual who DID NOT repent went from bad to worse? Or have you not heard: [I]"...after the second admonition, reject..."? The subject of that particular scripture is NOT Christianity, but the heretic.

The question will NEVER be whether the Lord Jesus can or will forgive: but whether the individual will draw near enough to hear and repent.

Brother Villa


Dear brother,

I certainly didn't mean to offend you in any way and if I offended you, please except my humble apology.

I was merely pointed out that without balance of the true nature of our loving Savior, people may be swayed into a life of regrets. For instance, regretting not holding their dear child, parent, loved one because of the narrow, often misguided direction of leadership.

What I know and what I've written here are formed from years of experience and first hand knowledge of our people being shunned and judged. I truly desired to show that our greatest commandment was to love one another and hateful one-sided speech couldn't achieve that objective.

For at that cross of Jesus flowed mercy and grace to save our wondering, lost souls. The scriptures that you quoted in your posts are biblical truths; however, one must present the gospel with temperance and fear of the Lord to not offend another; perhaps, causing them to not find peace with God again.

We are in a time of spiritual warfare like we've never seen before. I pray for guidance and anointing from Christ to flow through us in order to save the many.

Yours in Christ,

[Hnovilla]

His NAME is Jesus!


livingbygrace
"I...didn't mean to offend you...
I...pointed out that without balance of the true nature of our loving Savior, people may be swayed into a life of regrets...
What I know and what I've written here are formed from years of experience and first hand knowledge of ourpeople being shunned and judged. I truly desired to show that our greatest commandment was to love one another and hateful one-sided speech couldn't achieve that objective.
For at that cross of Jesus flowed mercy and grace to save our wondering, lost souls. The scriptures that you quoted in your posts are biblical truths; however, one must present the gospel with temperance and fear of the Lord to not offend another; perhaps, causing them to not find peace with God again.


Beloved, I am not offended, therefore no forgiveness is necessary. I am the one who is sorry for missing your point on a "lack of balance".
As for your "first hand experience", I do not know what that entails; nor who "our people" are, that you alluded to. I agree that "hateful, one-sided speech" cannot achieve the Lord's objective to love one another. However, neither can an offended spirit write objectively.
Mercy is what brings one to Jesus, and Grace is what saves us: and that is also what causes one person to repent and seek more of the Lord...and another to draw away from Him.
As for the topic of this discussion: there are homosexuals who have been seduced and fallen into homosexaulity, even as there are those who have been seduced into committing acts of fornication or adultery. Then there are those who have have rejected the council of God and have eventually been rejected by God. These are they which have been given over "...to a reprobate mind..."
Have you not read how the Church's first martyr was preaching the Gospel to the Sanhedrin, until he discerned their unbelief and the Holy Spirit called them "...stiffnecked and uncircumcised of heart and ears... "? Do you believe that those who took Stephen out to be stoned were later saved? Again, why would the scriptures say: "A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject..."? Understand, Beloved, that there is a time to live and a time to die.


Brother Villa

[Jehu]

Can a Homosexual be saved?

"Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves..."

Can the sin of homosexuality be regarded as any other sin? Can a person fall BACK into homosexuality, repent, and serve the Lord again as, say, a thief or a liar?


Brother Villa

If someone repents of homosexuality they can be saved. But if they remain a homosexual they are unrighteous and shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. But it is possible for someone who used to be homosexual to repent of homosexuality and be saved from homosexuality.

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)If a homosexual wants to be saved they must repent of being homosexual, they must completely and utterly die to homosexuality. Once the carnal mind is destroyed and replaced with a spiritual mind, homosexuality is finished! The carnal mind loves homosexuality, but the spiritual mind hates homosexuality. There is no such thing as a spiritual minded homosexual. The carnal mind rejects what the scriptures teach about how God feels about homosexuality, but the spiritual mind agrees and stands with God.

[jsc1215]

Just as with any other sinful lifestyle, I believe one can be delivered from the sin of sodomy. However, unlike many other sin matters, there has been a big acceptance of sodomy as a "normal" lifestyle choice, even in the churches. We have a bigger challenge in reaching the sodomites compared to other groups because there is now confusion created by political correctness and policies that grant protection and special rights to sodomites that no race or ethnic group has.

We must teach our children at home and in the church that sodomy is sin, regardless of what Hollywood and the school systems say. We must protect ourselves and guard our hearts to avoid condoning sodomy as acceptable.